Drugs!

hacktavist · 13-05-2003 8:25pm #1

I posted this on admin but no response yet.
Anyone else think we should have a board about drugs?
Or maybe a few different boards about seperate drugs.
Opinions anyone?

irishguy · 13-05-2003 8:27pm

not really there isnt really enough to fill a few boards it would all go under personal issues or after hours

phreak · 13-05-2003 9:11pm

i personally think its a law suit mine field.

what is there to discuss?

Free the Weed is one topic (which i am TOTALLY in favour of) but what else is there?

ballooba · 13-05-2003 9:14pm

No offence dave.c but i think that 'Banned' and 'Admin' should be reserved taglines. They are misleading.

Selik · 13-05-2003 9:21pm

For an example of how to do a run a really good drugs board check out [URL=http://]www.urban75.com[/URL] ... Lots of really intelligent and interesting people post there and the very fact that it's there in the first place probably saves lives. I think that Boards should definitely have one... If Urban75 can do it? Then why the hell can boards not?

phreak · 13-05-2003 9:34pm

i just took a look through their forum.

its actually quite useful with some excellent info. There is a couple of muppet threads like "Where can i buy stuff" but other than that it seems to be run well.

With strict moderating it could run quite well.

the Admins probably don't want the extra hassle at the moment though.

for what its worth, 2 thumbs up from me!

irishguy · 13-05-2003 9:45pm

Those boards are interesting but i think alot of people would complain and it looks like somthing that the sunday world would love to get a hold of. Also i wouldnt think there is that many hardened drugies on the boards , or is there

Victor · 13-05-2003 9:53pm

Originally posted by irishguy
Those boards are interesting but i think alot of people would complain and it looks like somthing that the sunday world would love to get a hold of.

/me looks at Azezil

Originally posted by ballooba
No offence dave.c but i think that 'Banned' and 'Admin' should be reserved taglines. They are misleading.

I suppose it's OK, once he doesn't tempt fate

DeVore · 13-05-2003 9:54pm

Originally posted by ballooba
No offence dave.c but i think that 'Banned' and 'Admin' should be reserved taglines. They are misleading.

"Admin" and a few others are censored out. "Banned" I kinda think is funny but it is misleading

DeV.

phreak · 13-05-2003 9:54pm

Originally posted by irishguy
Also i wouldnt think there is that many hardened drugies on the boards , or is there

you'd be suprised. Especially on the cannabis front.

phreak · 13-05-2003 9:56pm

Originally posted by DeVore
it is misleading

DeV.

thats the point

DeVore · 13-05-2003 10:00pm

oh as for the drug thing... I know I know... I want to support it too but we're already hanging sooo far out over the ledge of illegality that I'm not sure I want some mother sueing me cos her little Paddie swallowed 20 Rubex at the instruction of Whitewashman and turned into Augustus Gloop! [1]

DeV.

[1] Extra Magic Roundabouts if you can tell me where that character is from (without using Google!)

DeVore · 13-05-2003 10:01pm

Originally posted by dave.c
you'd be suprised. Especially on the cannabis front.

I would say more of Boards users have smoked Cannabis then havent. I'd say 1/4 - 1/3 are regular users (once a month if its available). Just my opinion.

DeV.

Mercury_Tilt · 13-05-2003 10:02pm

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Illkillya · 13-05-2003 10:03pm

too slow :>

Selik · 13-05-2003 10:08pm

You'd be surprised! :eek: No seriously though, I know if there was a drugs board I would back it to be a success. Mainly because there is a need for it... All it would need to get started is a few enthusiastic mods!

If anybody has yet to be convinced, there is a gardening / DIY board! I mean, wtf? No disrespect to any Gardeners / DIYers out there but I very much doubt that Drugs (not necessarily illegal ones) are less popular with your average boards guy/girl aged between 16 - 35! The fact is, whether people like it or not, drugs are a part of most peoples lives be it a cuppa and a fag for one person or a few pills and a bit of base for the next etc etc... If you look at the drugs board on U75, it's sensibly moderated by people who know what they're talking about and it's pretty rare that you get fools coming on looking to score drugs and the like. If that happens and the person offends persistently, they're banned - simple as that. Other U75ers (myself included) don't take to kindly to stuff like that as that is not the purpose of the forum. The purpose is to promote intelligent, healthy debate on various aspects of drugs and their positive and negative effects as well as for people to share their experiences with others and stop the spread of misinformation from various sources including some government sponsored anti-drug groups.

So... Come on the powers that be! At least have a trial run of one for about a month to see how it fares. It would be a pretty popular board imho.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-05-2003 10:12pm

Ii dunno about a board, but a few discussions and links on "legal" highs would be nice alright. and maybe discussion on the legality of certain substances? *shrug*

i don't think a board would be a good idea, as it would probably lead to trouble down the road.. but there's no one stopping you from talking about this on humanities or wherever

phreak · 13-05-2003 10:17pm

If anybody has yet to be convinced, there is a gardening / DIY board! I mean, wtf?

So... Come on the powers that be! At least have a trial run of one for about a month to see how it fares. It would be a pretty popular board imho.

i don't think its a problem with traffic (no pun intended) its more to do with the legality of the forum. The Admins are hardly gonna get a law suit thrown at them over the gardening / DIY board...unless i go and start a thread on the best way to grow certain plants

The purpose is to promote intelligent, healthy debate on various aspects of drugs and their positive and negative effects as well as for people to share their experiences with others and stop the spread of misinformation from various sources including some government sponsored anti-drug groups.

Thats the reason i would like to see the board happen.

g'wan Admins...give it a go

ManWithThePlan · 13-05-2003 11:21pm

I'm with dave.c on this one.

As long as the 'where can i buy teh xxx' muppets are banned, i'm sure there will be plenty of interesting debates/threads to be had.

hacktavist · 13-05-2003 11:27pm

Anyone ever post on http://www.overgrow.com?
People could post experiences .etc
Maybe talk about growing could be a bit dodgy though?
Im sure you could put up a disclamer stating boards isnt responsable if anyone follows actions posted by anyone.

p.s http://www.cannabisireland.com

Victor · 13-05-2003 11:42pm

Is this just becoming a listing page for drugs sites?

Evil Phil · 14-05-2003 12:49am

There are legal ramifications of having a drugs board, as Devore already said, somebody could end up suing boards. "Little Johnnies a ****-up on cannabis or something and its not our fault, we're great parents. How did this happen? Who's to blame?". Seriously, DO NOT underestimate the power of parental denial*.

Personally I don't smoke dope. Strangely, however, I do grow tomatoes.

*Won't somebody please think of the children

irishguy · 14-05-2003 2:12am

you'd be suprised. Especially on the cannabis front.

i wasent really talking about cannabis, i dont know very many people who havent tryed it i was talking about stronger drug. most of the posts on u75 are about stronger drugs i just couldnt see there being enough people to talk about this. the main reason i am against this is that boards.ie could get in trouble you know how irish people are. it just isnt wrth the hassle although i would like to see one of these boards

Dustaz · 14-05-2003 2:31am

havent we had this discussion a million times? and doesnt it always end up thats its a legal minefield?

BuffyBot · 14-05-2003 9:11am

Originally posted by Dustaz
havent we had this discussion a million times? and doesnt it always end up thats its a legal minefield?

<sings>Round..Round..baby..round..</sings>

It does seem to come up a few times..and does seem to get conclude along those lines.

Perhaps we could run a boards.ie book on how long before it comes around again?

MiCr0 · 14-05-2003 9:24am

Originally posted by DeVore
Whitewashman and turned into Augustus Gloop! [1]
[1] Extra Magic Roundabouts if you can tell me where that character is from (without using Google!)

charlie and the chocolate factory?

Hobart · 14-05-2003 11:47am

Originally posted by Dustaz
havent we had this discussion a million times? and doesnt it always end up thats its a legal minefield?

Why is it a legal minefield? I don't think the 'owners' of boards.ie are responsible for the content. Don't know about Ireland but this has been proved elsewhere.

ecksor · 14-05-2003 11:57am

Why do you have the word 'owners' in quotes?

Also, I haven't looked into this personally but the owners are responsible to the best of my knowledge.

Hobart · 14-05-2003 12:16pm

Originally posted by ecksor
Why do you have the word 'owners' in quotes?

Also, I haven't looked into this personally but the owners are responsible to the best of my knowledge.

Firstly Because I am not sure what the correct term for the 'owners' is. I have no idea who owns boards.ie. I have asked b4. And secondly I believe that the original poster was referring to a drugs information board as opposed to a drugs promotion board, which is obvioulsy a no no. I have not looked into it that much, in this media, myself, but I do some work in the media and I am very familiar with libel/slander law.

Victor · 14-05-2003 12:16pm

Originally posted by Hobart
Why is it a legal minefield? I don't think the 'owners' of boards.ie are responsible for the content. Don't know about Ireland but this has been proved elsewhere.

You are confusing this, it is the person who has editorial control (in this case the Admins / Boards Ltd.). Hosting365 (who run the server) are not responsible until someone (legally) orders them to remove material and they don't. Likewise Eircom / Esat / etc. are not responsible as common carriers (they know there is traffic, but they don't know what it is).

Hobart · 14-05-2003 12:30pm

Originally posted by Victor
You are confusing this, it is the person who has editorial control (in this case the Admins / Boards Ltd.). Hosting365 (who run the server) are not responsible until someone (legally) orders them to remove material and they don't. Likewise Eircom / Esat / etc. are not responsible as common carriers (they know there is traffic, but they don't know what it is).

I understand that. But how or why is it a legal minefield. My point is that the responsibility is with the poster for his/her views and not necessarily the responsibility of the admins.

Drugs!

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