QW Servers - Vote on Settings

Cloud

Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

John.
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Possible Settings:

sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
serverinfo rj 1.5

Barrysworld Settings:

1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

Von

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

Back to 2.1 settings please.

: Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

: John.
: --
: Possible Settings:

: sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
: sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
: serverinfo rj 1.5

: Barrysworld Settings:

: 1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
: 2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
: 3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
: 4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

FlavorFlav

Hmm, I think a vore has to be a last resort to the situation. People in general need to be aware of the pros and cons and make a reasonable decision, Therefore there needs to be discussion.

Some points for discussion.

Go for new settings because they are the same as regular quake/winquake. (unified playing experience)

What are international teams and big clans choosing? (dont want to always be an island)

FlavorFlav

LegacyUser

: Hmm, I think a vore has to be a last resort to the situation. People in general need to be aware of the pros and cons and make a reasonable decision, Therefore there needs to be discussion.

A vote I presume you mean, although we can ask
the Vore for a veto if you want.

It's quite simple, go for the old feel (physics)
of QW 2.1 or stick with this new hybrid version
of the old QW 2.1 and WinQuake.

Most people have played both 2.1 and 2.21 so
should have a good idea which they prefer.

Let's not confuse the matter and go into whether
rj 1.15 or 1.2 is best for a rocket jump, we have
the settings from Barrysworld so we can decide
whether to go with that or not.

: Some points for discussion.

: Go for new settings because they are the same as regular quake/winquake. (unified playing experience)

Well not much of a debate there, more of a vote
for 2.21! At least we know where you stand Flav.

: What are international teams and big clans choosing? (dont want to always be an island)

Majority opinion in UK was for the old physics
from 2.1 and thus Barrysworld changed. As for
individual clans / teams, I don't know.

: FlavorFlav

LegacyUser

: : Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

I like the old settings... but do the map check !!

YUM


: : Possible Settings:

: : sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
: : sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
: : serverinfo rj 1.5

: : Barrysworld Settings:

: : 1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
: : 2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
: : 3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
: : 4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

LegacyUser

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

Barrysworld aren't brill.

I played on on one of the irish ones at weekend
and jummp to mega health on mgduel1 was do-able.
Ideally I would like to see settings when you
can move about in mid-air like old QW (not
realistic, but when was a game about killing
ppl realistic?)

Also, the easier to get out of lava on DM4 the
better. New 2.21 is bloddy stupid in that
respect. Rocket jumps should be old style too.

How do you expect ppl to make new maps if ****
game writers change the game while the map is
under development?

DeVore

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

: Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

: John.
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: Possible Settings:

: sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
: sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)

I think this setting alone may be causing ppl
to think the servers are lagged. You do seem to
slip about the place...

No water hack and map check are fine by me.
Also can ppl who have eyes and player models
please replace them (I'm vaguely looking at one or
two INC members here and one specific CT member.)

As for the rest of the physics. Back to 2.10.
If it aint broken, don't fix it.

DeVore.

Spoonman

The new 2.21 gives me better pings 135 etc on good days and I get better fps from it too! I think we should give it a chance.

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

: Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

: John.
: --
: Possible Settings:

: sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
: sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
: serverinfo rj 1.5

: Barrysworld Settings:

: 1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
: 2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
: 3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
: 4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

Cloud

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?
hmmmmm....
: Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

: John.
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: Possible Settings:

: sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
so the water is slower to move in, its slow ehuf in 2.1 ffs =]
: sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
yes i think
: serverinfo rj 1.5
????

: Barrysworld Settings:

: 1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
i think that would be better maybe not too sure, seen as i got about 2 days of playing since i left
: 2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
allow it
: 3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
off!
: 4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

hacking of maps to be allowed!! i like seeing through the damn water, and so does most of the world =]
leave the Rjs to the old style! its hard enoiugh to do em without having to learn how again (etc etc)

someone made the point about getting out of lava was harder, cmon its hard enough without making it werse!
also, anyone on IRC at 4 am for me to talk to =] =]
ill shut up now
SeP

Cloud

Gah!

Here was me thinking I was gone all ninja hopping out of the lava every couple of minutes in barrysworld last night!

You had to go and shatter my illusions!!

I reckon we should stay the same as barrysworld - most of us play both in quake.ie and barrys, so it'd be better if they had the same physics, esp if hibs're going to be playing english clans (don't want us to be misjudging jumps, swimming in lava and quad-rocking ourselves just cos of a physics change!).

: Do we go back to 2.10-type setttings or stick with 2.21?

: Let's have some ayes and nays here on the board.

: John.
: --
: Possible Settings:

: sv_waterfriction 1 (2.21 = 4)
: sv_friction 6 (2.21 = 4)
: serverinfo rj 1.5

: Barrysworld Settings:

: 1. sv_friction 6 (old style physics)
: 2. serverinfo watervis 0 (no water vissing)
: 3. sv_mapcheck 1 (map checking on)
: 4. serverinfo rj 1.0 (why not , apparently does not work on CTF servers)

Cloud

Pings wouldn't be affected Spoon m8, just the
physics (move faster, jump higher etc.).

John.
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Koopa

i reckon the new qw is fine with the default settings
if its harder to get out of the lava,and you can get out with the new settings, if u play on a server with old settings it will be even easier for you
BTW ive played on the new qw with default settings,(duh), and you can do just about everything you could do in the old qw, it just feels more like winquake
And you dont keep getting tossed up wayyyy into the air each time a rocket hits you..
this is a bit like the old "turn sv_aim on cos its too hard to aim otherwise" debate made by kiddies parents on IOL a while back i think..
i doubt any international matches will be played with our side's "preferred friction level" etc in mind.

Spoonman

Oh right go back to the old physics then plz

: Pings wouldn't be affected Spoon m8, just the
: physics (move faster, jump higher etc.).

: John.
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LegacyUser

I agree with Dev on most of this except for the waterhack, please
turn it back on, I didn't spend all those wads on my voodoo2 for nothing.

Gandalf (In California)

-Oh and btw the weather is sh1te over here

: I think this setting alone may be causing ppl
: to think the servers are lagged. You do seem to
: slip about the place...

: No water hack and map check are fine by me.
: Also can ppl who have eyes and player models
: please replace them (I'm vaguely looking at one or
: two INC members here and one specific CT member.)

: As for the rest of the physics. Back to 2.10.
: If it aint broken, don't fix it.

: DeVore.

LegacyUser

I'd prefer waterhack off myself and map/model checking.

(Incude some unt guys in that list..esp. the one who put those models on my machines...)

LegacyUser

: I'd prefer waterhack off myself and map/model checking.

: (Incude some unt guys in that list..esp. the one who put those models on my machines...)

For the last time, it's NTS version 2, not a hacking of the eyes.mdl model AT ALL!!! :P It only slighly modifies the player.mdl to make lurking difficult.

Thinker