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Netsource feedback - Quality Broadband?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Sloth


    I'd be lying if I said Netsource's performance has been anything less than flawless for me since I got it fixed:

    C:\DOCUME~1\KEVINO~1>ping -t www.netsource.ie

    Pinging www.netsource.ie [212.17.32.48] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=126
    Reply from 212.17.32.48: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=126

    Ping statistics for 212.17.32.48:
    Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 26, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 65ms, Average = 61ms


    I also average 83 to jolt, 88 to www.boards.ie and 91 to europa.owo.com
    I know those pings aren't exactly up there with nildram pings but for interleaved ones where the baseline is about 60ms they're not too bad.
    As for the RADSL problems you lot on RADSL just have to phone them day in and day out until it gets fixed and threaten to move company unless the problem is fixed. It's the only way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭STaN


    when its good its very good, when its bad its horrid. It was good today at 2pm. Was terrible last night till 4am. Any updates?


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭flav0rflav


    They say they are going to go from a 2 meg to a 6 meg link for radslers, potentially this week. I have to say, I don't think it'll be enough.

    Why not just bite the bullet and throw in a fibre connect at 45 or even 155? You're aiming for thousands of customers? And sooner, or later, radsl will step up to 1 or 2 meg. Follow the nildram model, be the quality provider.

    How much is it? 155/oc3/stm1? eh? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭MrB


    I couldn't agree with flav0rflav more, you already charge a premium why not make a name for your self as the best DSL provider, it can't hurt :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭bricks


    Originally posted by flav0rflav
    They say they are going to go from a 2 meg to a 6 meg link for radslers, potentially this week. I have to say, I don't think it'll be enough.

    Why not just bite the bullet and throw in a fibre connect at 45 or even 155? You're aiming for thousands of customers? And sooner, or later, radsl will step up to 1 or 2 meg. Follow the nildram model, be the quality provider.

    How much is it? 155/oc3/stm1? eh? :)

    Would it not cost a small fortune to get fibre installed?
    Considering how much it costs in this country for 2Mbits leased line. I'd say the price of a 155Mbits line is really scarry.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭flav0rflav


    I don't know how much it costs, but i'll bet it costs alot more than it should cost, if the regulator and government were really promoting competition and a broadband future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭STaN


    it costs in the region of €150,000 per year in rent. Thats just the line from exchange to exchange.


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭flav0rflav


    Not sure where you got that price Stan. Best I have is:
    5. Price
    The pricing for ALT will follow the pricing principles for 155M, 45M and 2M with a
    connection fee and a distance based rental, priced on a project-by-project basis.
    Access Seekers should contact their Wholesale Account Manager for specific pricing.
    The charge per 1M CBR VT is EUR 2032 per annum rental.

    But we'll go with 150k per annum for 155M.

    512k @ 10:1, 155M => 3100 customers
    1M @ 20:1, 155M => 3100 customers (ok so I rigged it).

    150k/3k = 50 per user per annum, or ~4 euro per customer per month.

    Netsource?


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭flav0rflav


    Netsource mentioned that eircom mentioned that their bandwidth upgrade should happen yesterday/today (friday).

    Gold star and no homework for first person to spot when it happens. Although I fear it may be difficult to notice a big difference.

    [edit]
    discussion has more actively continued in broadband forum.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Originally posted by Muck
    I've noticed that, Why?

    You're a LEAP customer and have been for ages :D

    I'm jammy. I got Leap in early and was on their test. Still getting good access cos I'm on some kinda business circuit that never contends me in the evening (yummy 50K downloads).

    Muck, I'll be explaining my interest in all things RADSL very soon on this forum (in the interests of Full Disclosure) but I have an *essay* to write first.

    Yes, DeVore's up to something. :)



    DeV.


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