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FirA_Fascio · 23-06-2003 10:55pm

thats funny... since the FirA just HAPPENS to be an age of empires and unreal tournament clan that andrew and i are leaders in .....

interested in joining? hyuk hyuk hyuk

:rolleyes: :ninja:

Chaz · 23-06-2003 10:57pm

Quite possibly - I play both :-)

Are you guys on IRC/MSN/ICQ/AOL ?

andrew163 · 23-06-2003 11:35pm

Originally posted by Chaz
Andrew163 - Age of Kings - Great game - anyone up for one sometime?

any time.......just email or pm me

(of course, it would be alot easier to play aoe with broadband

)

and yep im on MSN, AOL and i think i have an ICQ account somewhere.....(check ur PMs)

Chaz · 23-06-2003 11:36pm

You have other contact method - as listed above?

FirA_Fascio · 23-06-2003 11:39pm

NIBBS · 24-06-2003 7:00am

Chaz, thanks for that,

and just while people are banging on about why their area would be great for the introduction of broadband, there's planning permission in for an estate of 20,000 people at the bottom of my road, Clare Hall is just down the road and a lot of new estates have been built out here, so if nothing is planned get your lads to do a feasability..........
It's one of the reasons I think Lucan is in a lot of BB plans, a new estate out there with 10,000 houses and new cable would be ideal fighting ground for ISP's..............

LFCFan · 24-06-2003 10:19am

Originally posted by NIBBS
Chaz, thanks for that,

and just while people are banging on about why their area would be great for the introduction of broadband, there's planning permission in for an estate of 20,000 people at the bottom of my road, Clare Hall is just down the road and a lot of new estates have been built out here, so if nothing is planned get your lads to do a feasability..........
It's one of the reasons I think Lucan is in a lot of BB plans, a new estate out there with 10,000 houses and new cable would be ideal fighting ground for ISP's..............

Same can be said for some of the new estate around Dublin 15. Tyrrelstown for example is huge already and is continuing to grow. Nice big estate with a huge potential customer base.

LFCFan · 24-06-2003 10:29am

Originally posted by Chaz
So to answer LFCFan - and Nitrox - once again - there is no reason to think that IBB are not pro rolling out D15 <insert previous yada yada speech here>

We're not getting at you Chaz. Fair play for actually keeping us informed. You have to understand though that since October last year everytime we've contacted IBB about your service in Dublin 15 we've been told 2 months. Yis should be chuffed to know that whenever you do provide us with a service you'll be inundated with requests.

pete · 25-06-2003 7:39pm

driving through ballycoolin tonight i spotted what looked remarkably like an omni-directional antennae on a pole on the roof of the suspected building...

can anyone confirm if the hardware's been installed?

Chaz · 25-06-2003 7:40pm

Nothing from IBB. Where exactly is it?

LFCFan · 25-06-2003 7:45pm

Originally posted by pete
driving through ballycoolin tonight i spotted what looked remarkably like an omni-directional antennae on a pole on the roof of the suspected building...

can anyone confirm if the hardware's been installed?

what building are you on about?

pete · 25-06-2003 7:54pm

Originally posted by LFCFan
what building are you on about?

never mind - i was wrong

Matt Simis · 26-06-2003 10:13am

AFAIK, the transmitter is on the tower beside the former Tyco building is it not?

Matt

vishal · 28-06-2003 9:06pm

hi chaz, is there any news about the test results from navani?

gurramok · 29-06-2003 10:57am

Originally posted by Matt Simis
AFAIK, the transmitter is on the tower beside the former Tyco building is it not?

That tower has been there for years, but it ain't exactly 'tall' as there are many obstacles around it ie..like the 'tall' buildings around it

Nitrox · 29-06-2003 8:00pm

Just wondering if there was any news yet about the ripwave results? i have decided not to go with the new UTV friaco thing as i would be stuck with a new 3 month contract, then rather go with Netsource!!
But really what would be ideal is to get ripwave by the sound of it or am i expecting too much living in the ifsc surounded by tall buildings?
I really hope this will hit the city soon, espeially the city center

Boston · 29-06-2003 10:43pm

In case anyone is interested i managed to worm some small detail out of someone at irishbroadband about the service, apparently it will have a contention ratio of 25:1

Nitrox · 30-06-2003 10:09am

Originally posted by Boston
In case anyone is interested i managed to worm some small detail out of someone at irishbroadband about the service, apparently it will have a contention ratio of 25:1

Did you worm out whether it was capped or not??

Boston · 30-06-2003 2:00pm

Said it would be selling at the same spec as the old service except with a different contention ratio. they did however say that they where still in talks with navani or what ever they are called

DMT · 30-06-2003 7:41pm

Originally posted by Nitrox
Just wondering if there was any news yet about the ripwave results? i have decided not to go with the new UTV friaco thing as i would be stuck with a new 3 month contract, then rather go with Netsource!!
But really what would be ideal is to get ripwave by the sound of it or am i expecting too much living in the ifsc surounded by tall buildings?
I really hope this will hit the city soon, espeially the city center

There isn't a hope in hell of an untested wireless broadband service coming into to existance in under three months.

Nitrox · 30-06-2003 9:04pm

Hey Hey Hey!! WHo said this was untested? Just because it is new here in Ireland like most IT is really, it does not mean the rest of the world live in the same kind of dark ages, so it is not a matter of testing a new product here, just another struggle for Ireland to accept new progress...

Chaz · 01-07-2003 3:52pm

Hi guys

I am currently on leave - hence the 'slow' response. Man - I hate dialup.

The Navini trial went well - all the tests that I had been involved in had been promising. The final results from Navini themselves were not available yet by the time I had started my leave.

I will try and call one of the guys during the week and see if there is any info - and will give it here.

DeVore · 01-07-2003 5:14pm

Chaz I've heard things about the power output on Navini kit being out of ComReg's allowable range.

I've tried to find out from everyone (including Comreg and IBB) but noone seems to know and/or they arent telling.

So I'm asking a blunt question in public (its kinda what I do

)

Is the power output of the Navini Kit within the 100 milliwatt range allowable by ComReg?

DeV.

Nitrox · 01-07-2003 7:06pm

Originally posted by Chaz
Hi guys

I am currently on leave - hence the 'slow' response. Man - I hate dialup.

Hi Chaz
Welcome back to our or at least my world, Dialup Sukx, but luckily UTV help make it a bit better.

I must admit i am impressed with your will to inform us, good job!
Also extremely happy although not surprised that the trials went fine ww)

But before putting the hopes too high i also do wonder how this is all possible staying inside all the rules and all, but i gues you would not spend all this time testing if it did not comply.
Have a nice holliday!

DMT · 01-07-2003 7:34pm

Originally posted by Nitrox
Hey Hey Hey!! WHo said this was untested?

Just because the technology has been tested doesn't mean it doesn't have to be tested in the field in every location it's going to be installed.

There's propagation and interference problems that must first be tracked down and eliminated. The topology of the area must be taken into account.

All this takes time. It's not just a case of slapping down a transmitter anywhere you want and blasting away.

LFCFan · 03-07-2003 12:05pm

Chaz....you say the mast is in Ballycoolin but you're just waiting for power. How come it's not on the coverage map then? Others like the one in Tallaght that are not activated yet are on the coverage map and just says not activated yet. Can you not add the one in Ballycoolin? I know it's a trivial thing but it would give us some indication that it might happen at some stage.

Boston · 04-07-2003 7:29pm

Originally posted by DeVore
Chaz I've heard things about the power output on Navini kit being out of ComReg's allowable range.

I've tried to find out from everyone (including Comreg and IBB) but noone seems to know and/or they arent telling.

So I'm asking a blunt question in public (its kinda what I do )

Is the power output of the Navini Kit within the 100 milliwatt range allowable by ComReg?

DeV.

from what i've read about the service, its adjustable for the range, so the answer is, maybe. One thing is that what it operates at in the us is not allowed in europe

Sir Random · 08-07-2003 1:56am

Chaz,
Do you know if IBB have any plans to cover the Bray area? I believe a certain land owner has been approached re placing a comms mast on his property (high on Bray head) and I was just wondering...?

Capt'n Midnight · 08-07-2003 11:22am

RE from what i've read about the service, its adjustable for the range, so the answer is, maybe. One thing is that what it operates at in the us is not allowed in europe

In the EU 100mW EIRP is the maximum.
(in France some channels are only allowed at 10mW EIRP)
It does not matter what type of link you use.

In the States and many other places you are allowed to focus the beam to get up to 4W EIRP for point-to-multipoint. That's 40 times the legal power in EU

For Point to Point links the FCC allow even higher EIRP's

"At 2.4 GHz under the new FCC Rule 15.247, the RF output power into the antenna must be reduced by 1 dB for every 3 dB that the antenna gain exceeds 6 dBi. For example, using a 4' (27 dB) dish, under the 3 for 1 rule, the excess gain is 21 dB. So, the power into the antenna must be reduced by 21/3 = 7 dB below 1 watt, or +23 dBm. "

In this example overall gain is +23dBm + 21dB = 44dBm
44dBm = 25 Watts EIRP 250 times the EU limits...

David C · 08-07-2003 11:59am

The thing about increasing power is that once people start increasing, the amount of noise on the band increases and it becomes more and more difficult to communicate at lower powers and you end up where you started, except with a whole lot more RF floating around.
In an already over crowded band like the 2.4ghz band, this would only serve to make matters worse in cities at least, imo. In rural areas, however, where it is much quieter it would be of use.

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