anyone else fed up hearing about abortion already

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ohnonotgmail · 10-01-2017 04:27PM

gctest50 wrote: »

There must be huge money getting funnelled here and there in all this "Pro-Life" stuff

A lot of it coming from the US. I@m sure a certain institution will be rubbing its hands at the thoughts of the all the extra money flowing through it.

infogiver · 10-01-2017 04:29PM

gctest50 wrote: »

There must be huge money getting funnelled here and there in all this "Pro-Life" stuff

Bit like the refugee/immigrant stuff - huge money

And Mr Soros billionaire from abortions is not funding the pro abortion side or is that allowed?
What have Refugees got to do with it?

gctest50 · 10-01-2017 04:41PM

infogiver wrote: »

And Mr Soros billionaire from abortions is not funding the pro abortion side or is that allowed?
What have Refugees got to do with it?

infogiver wrote: »

And Mr Soros billionaire from abortions

So, you are saying George Soros made billions from abortions ?

Just so everyone is sure : you are referring to this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

Outlaw Pete · 10-01-2017 04:56PM

frag420 wrote: »

To those of you that are Pro-Life...what post birth groups are you a member of and support that may help disabled children, homeless children, hungry children, abused children etc etc etc!?

Do any of you support either financially or other any of the following children groups...

The Children's Rights Alliance
Barnardos
LauraLynn
Barretstown
Focus Ireland
MakeaWish
TempleStreet
CARI

So would you ask the same of those that complain about what this woman did?? Would you suggest anyone that condemns that woman is merely crying crocodile tears if they don't also belong to the above groups you cite? Sure how could they really care about the dead child if they aren't also donating to the MakeWish Foundation on a regular basis.

The arguments used to justify the killing of developing human beings gets more and more ludicrous as each day passes.

Here's a baby born at 24 weeks and remember, many that argue on these threads would support it's killing were it positioned in a woman's womb rather than in the safety of an incubator.

Now remember... the slight movements you will see are "autonomic" and we are still "safe" to kill it at this stage as it's just a "blob of biological matter".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaLK4Fj2eo

frag420 · 10-01-2017 05:06PM

You haven't answers the question I asked...

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

So would you ask the same of those that complain about what this woman did?? Would you suggest anyone that condemns that woman is merely crying crocodile tears if they don't also belong to the above groups you cite? Sure how could they really care about the dead child if they aren't also donating to the MakeWish Foundation on a regular basis.

The arguments used to justify the killing of developing human beings gets more and more ludicrous as each day passes.

Here's a baby born at 24 weeks and remember, many that argue on these threads would support it's killing were it positioned in a woman's womb rather than in the safety of an incubator.

Now remember... the slight movements you will see are "autonomic" and we are still "safe" to kill it at this stage as it's just a "blob of biological matter".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaLK4Fj2eo

ohnonotgmail · 10-01-2017 05:09PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

So would you ask the same of those that complain about what this woman did?? Would you suggest anyone that condemns that woman is merely crying crocodile tears if they don't also belong to the above groups you cite? Sure how could they really care about the dead child if they aren't also donating to the MakeWish Foundation on a regular basis.

you're conflating abortion with murdering a newborn? pathetic.

keano_afc · 10-01-2017 05:22PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

im sick of hearing about it and it hasnt even started yet.
its a total waste of time . the subject is so strong that people have their opinions on it and are very unlikely to change them.

why cant we just have one week of facts and then a referendum.

I'm tired of the same pathetic, simpleton arguments from the pro-abortion side to be honest.

A Little Pony · 10-01-2017 05:26PM

Atheist here against abortion. Horrific money making exercise.

Johnboner · 10-01-2017 05:31PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Atheist here against abortion. Horrific money making exercise.

Lol, what???

gctest50 · 10-01-2017 05:34PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Here's a baby born at 24 weeks and

Using a video of someones little premature kid to push your agenda ?

Did you email them and ask them was it ok if you did ?

Jayop · 10-01-2017 05:38PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Unionist here against abortion. Horrific money making exercise.

I fixed your post there to make it more relevant and accurate.

lawred2 · 10-01-2017 05:40PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Atheist

Relevance?

A Little Pony wrote: »

here against abortion.

Grand

A Little Pony wrote: »

Horrific money making exercise

What?

RobertKK · 10-01-2017 05:46PM

Abortion is fine if you can support the idea that one's own mother could have aborted you and that the life one has is not worthwhile.
One can ask themselves, is my life worthwhile?
Is my life worthwhile as I argue for or against abortion?
If I was never born, would it matter, would it be better or worse for others?

infogiver · 10-01-2017 05:46PM

gctest50 wrote: »

So, you are saying George Soros made billions from abortions ?

Just so everyone is sure : you are referring to this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

It's quite mysterious why Me Soros is so very keen to keep Planned Parenthood going isn't it? He's positively gripped with enthusiasm about this abortions for all organisation?
Did you ever wonder why?

donkeykong5 · 10-01-2017 05:47PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

gctest50 wrote: »

There must be huge money getting funnelled here and there in all this "Pro-Life" stuff

A lot of it coming from the US. I@m sure a certain institution will be rubbing its hands at the thoughts of the all the extra money flowing through it.

As much as they sent to swing the referendum 18 months ago ?

infogiver · 10-01-2017 05:49PM

....... wrote: »

Can we get both sides to disclose their funding?

I wonder if Enda will time a referendum for just after the Popes visit?

I thought that th RCC were irrelevant in Ireland now, a spent force according to the left liberal voice.
Why would you be concerned then about the juxtaposition of the referendum and the Popes visit?

ohnonotgmail · 10-01-2017 05:52PM

infogiver wrote: »

It's quite mysterious why Me Soros is so very keen to keep Planned Parenthood going isn't it? He's positively gripped with enthusiasm about this abortions for all organisation?
Did you ever wonder why?

You mean Planned Parenthood the non-profit organisation? plenty of money to be made there i'm sure. you do know they do a lot more than abortions, right?

infogiver · 10-01-2017 05:53PM

Johnboner wrote: »

Lol, what???

Johnboner you really need to do some reading
Plenty of people of no faith or belief are pro life.
You need to give up your idea that it's entirely the preserve of religious types.
If something is wrong it's wrong
You don't need a religious leader to tell you that

ohnonotgmail · 10-01-2017 05:54PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Abortion is fine if you can support the idea that one's own mother could have aborted you and that the life one has is not worthwhile.
One can ask themselves, is my life worthwhile?
Is my life worthwhile as I argue for or against abortion?
If I was never born, would it matter, would it be better or worse for others?

an interesting philosophical question but no relevance to the issue at hand.

infogiver · 10-01-2017 05:54PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You mean Planned Parenthood the non-profit organisation? plenty of money to be made there i'm sure. you do know they do a lot than abortions, right?

So you think nobody is making any money from planned parenthood? Lol

somefeen · 10-01-2017 05:56PM

infogiver wrote: »

So you think nobody is making any money from planned parenthood? Lol

Name one charity that nobody makes money from.

donkeykong5 · 10-01-2017 05:57PM

gctest50 wrote: »

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Here's a baby born at 24 weeks and

Using a video of someones little premature kid to push your agenda ?

Did you email them and ask them was it ok if you did ?

The point he was making was that the baby in the video was 24 weeks old. And that's exactly what the baby in the womb who was also 24 weeks gestation would look like. It's not rocket science.

ohnonotgmail · 10-01-2017 06:00PM

infogiver wrote: »

So you think nobody is making any money from planned parenthood? Lol

well their staff get paid i suppose.

but given that they are dependent on government grants to keep offering the services they do i can be pretty confident when i say that nobody is making money from planned parenthood

gctest50 · 10-01-2017 06:00PM

infogiver wrote: »

And Mr Soros billionaire from abortions is not funding the pro abortion side or is that allowed?
What have Refugees got to do with it?

infogiver wrote: »

And Mr Soros billionaire from abortions

You are saying George Soros made billions from abortions

Have you any source for this ?

currants · 10-01-2017 06:02PM

gctest50 wrote: »

Using a video of someones little premature kid to push your agenda ?

Did you email them and ask them was it ok if you did ?

Makes you wonder about the definition of human dignity doesn't it? Its like the baby doesn't have any rights to dignity or privacy himself and can be used casually and freely to score points in an anonymous argument outside of the context of why his parents posted his progress.

That level of dissonance is frightening. Its akin to the nutters who shoot doctors performing terminations. This is the level of discussion we can expect, its very depressing. Black and white thinking about gray moral issues is always repulsive when you witness it.

Johnboner · 10-01-2017 06:03PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Atheist here against abortion. Horrific money making exercise.

I am an Atheist and I support abortion on demand. Nobody cares that you are an Atheist.

RobertKK · 10-01-2017 06:05PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well their staff get paid i suppose. but given that they are dependent on government grants to keep offering the services they do i can be pretty confident when i say that nobody is making money from planned parenthood

Cecile Richards would be out of a job if she worked for a non profit organisation here given she is being paid close to $600,000.
Her salary has more than doubled since she got the job.

jameorahiely · 10-01-2017 06:05PM

Born at 23 weeks, so cute
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/miracle-twins-tiniest-born-uk-8670997

How could anyone want to kill them?

Zubeneschamali · 10-01-2017 06:09PM

infogiver wrote: »

Plenty of people of no faith or belief are pro life.

Yet the association of every vaguely Christian church in Ireland bar the Catholics was opposed to the 8th amendment back in the 80s.

Not only is it a religious thing in the Irish context, it is a Catholic religious thing.

http://www.thejournal.ie/1982-irish-council-of-churches-opposed-anti-abortion-amendment-709821-Dec2012/

(Lots of American loo-laas are anti abortion AND anti Catholic, but i am talking about Irish people here).

anyone else fed up hearing about abortion already

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