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Problems with Council tennants and what can be done

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭all_names_gone


    If you know about a child being sexually abused the correct action is to report it immediately, not rely on others.

    In all cases it is better that the rape of a child be reported twice, rather than not at all.

    Yes I never said anything about rape, the bit with the 15 year old was dealt with by his parents.

    I am not saying that the 10 or 3 year old is being raped or sexually abused, definitely emotional and or physical abuse and neglect. I think we must be careful about saying things like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Taking your description at face value, which we've no reason not to:

    A. She's a piece of dirt
    B. Will never be able to independently house herself (and kids, if let keep them)

    So what can the council really do? They move her and the problem just starts in the next area. People like that are very unlikely to change.

    Its terrible for you, but from the CoCos perspective not much can be done on the macro level. Best off trying to improve your station as to leave the area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    Yes I never said anything about rape, the bit with the 15 year old was dealt with by his parents.

    I am not saying that the 10 or 3 year old is being raped or sexually abused, definitely emotional and or physical abuse and neglect. I think we must be careful about saying things like that.


    Had a relationship with the neighbours 15 year old son
    beat up the neighbours 15 year old
    Got pregnant and had an abortion for the 15 year old.

    I think you have said that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭all_names_gone


    I think you have said that

    Well then I misread your last comment and thought you were talking about the other children. But I did mention a few times the parents of the 15 year old sorted it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭all_names_gone


    ED E wrote: »
    Taking your description at face value, which we've no reason not to:

    A. She's a piece of dirt
    B. Will never be able to independently house herself (and kids, if let keep them)

    So what can the council really do? They move her and the problem just starts in the next area. People like that are very unlikely to change.

    Its terrible for you, but from the CoCos perspective not much can be done on the macro level. Best off trying to improve your station as to leave the area.

    Yes, I am looking into getting out of where we are and still to come to a decision, its not that easy though we have 3 kids of our own so will have to put a bit of planning in.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    In situations like this, you CANNOT rely on others to do anything. It is your duty to report child protection concerns to your local duty social work department (Tusla). Don't talk to your other neighbours, don't ask the nurse lady, do it now! It doesn't matter who she reported it to, you have your own separate concerns and need to report them. Phone your local council and report all the anti social behaviour too. And everytime there is another incident of anti social behavior, report that too. You have let this go on for far too long and with risk of being harsh, I think it is a disgrace that you have not kicked up more of a fuss regarding those kids- all three of them. A 15 year old was the victim of statutory rape. YOU should have reported this. And so should everybody else who knew. Parents "dealing with it" means nothing. If a grown man groomed and had sex with a 15 year old girl there would be a lynch mob.

    OP has already stated that the Garda were informed of the incident and couldn't take it further because the 15 year old wouldn't make a statement which makes sense, they couldn't do anything about it in that case.

    I don't doubt there are serious concerns regarding this woman's own children but I think people focusing on the 15 year old are going way over the top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭all_names_gone


    In situations like this, you CANNOT rely on others to do anything. It is your duty to report child protection concerns to your local duty social work department (Tusla). Don't talk to your other neighbours, don't ask the nurse lady, do it now! It doesn't matter who she reported it to, you have your own separate concerns and need to report them. Phone your local council and report all the anti social behaviour too. And everytime there is another incident of anti social behavior, report that too. You have let this go on for far too long and with risk of being harsh, I think it is a disgrace that you have not kicked up more of a fuss regarding those kids- all three of them. A 15 year old was the victim of statutory rape. YOU should have reported this. And so should everybody else who knew. Parents "dealing with it" means nothing. If a grown man groomed and had sex with a 15 year old girl there would be a lynch mob.

    His parents dealt with it, that is the end of the matter. If you came here to have a go, please dont, as I said earlier, this is serious ****, not time for taking the moral high ground.

    And I said many times, she has been reported many times, nobody has done anything. My partner reported her about the children, my partner reported her about the drug dealing, which led to the raid. the nurse who has all of the relevant info reported her, nothing has been done.

    Hence the reason I am on an anonymous board looking for advice, because clearly nothing has worked. Which leads me to believe you didnt read anything in this thread and just decided to answer because if you had you would have read that all of the things mentioned were done, nobody is doing anything. Nobody. I have lost count how many times social services were involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    pilly wrote: »
    They council don't have to indefinitely provide accommodation. If someone is evicted for anti-social behaviour they're considered to have made themselves homeless.
    By themselves, sure. With a family of kids; the media would have a field day, and they'd be put back into the house with a load of compo.

    He who shouts loudest gets heard. And I'm sure a lot would decide to hear the problem woman.
    I think you have said that
    She said that the problem woman had statutory raped the neighbours 15 year old son, but didn't say that the dispos kids were raped.

    Regarding the 15 year old, the problem woman would be in jail if the sexes were reversed, but apart from the 15 year old male getting high fives and street cred (and probably every STD in the book), nothing will happen to the problem woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭all_names_gone


    Ok lets put the problem of the 15 year behind us. He didnt want to make a statement, the case could go no further. The parents paid for the abortion, which I think was the right decision in this case. So to me that part is dealt with.

    The real problem here is two children and serious anti-social behaviour


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Moderation: This is all getting a bit Albert Square. OP you have your answer, thread closed.


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