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Bouncer punches woman who tried to punch him.

  • 19-04-2017 02:57PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭


    http://theliberal.ie/video-a-bouncer-is-being-interview-by-police-after-punching-a-woman-in-the-face-after-she-swung-at-him/

    The bouncer is currently under police investigation for punching a woman after she threw a punch at him. Would he be under investigation if he had hit back at a man who tried to deck him?

    What do you reckon folks, did the bouncer do right?

    I'm kind of conflicted on this one. I absolutely believe that it's a scummy thing for a man to hit a woman but equally you can't allow half the population free reign to lash out at men either.

    I think I'm going to go with equal rights here and say that he did right. She tried to assault him and the argument could be made that he acted in self defence.

    Am I in the minority in thinking this?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,834 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    She deserved it, swing at someone you expect to get hit back.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Hitting a woman is a scummy thing to do.

    But if a woman hits a man its also scummy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I think it's probably appropriate to investigate whenever a bouncer punches someone square in the face


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Yup, she cannot be surprised that violence is met with violence regardless of the sex of the other person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    Her swing was hilarious, he could have went for a cup of tea and came back and her swing would still be on its way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    I'm all for self defense but I watched the video and she was no threat. I would say the same thing if she was a man. She was so drunk he easily ducked her pathetic punch. He could easily restrained her or pushed her over. In this case it was a complete over reaction on his part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Nice duck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    She deserved it, so g at someone you expect to get hit back.
    If someone has a go at you, you have a right to defend your self appropriately. She was no threat here and didn't even hit him. His reaction was not proportionate.

    The man/woman angle is stupid. There are plenty of women who could cause damage in a fight but this woman was not one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    She wouldn't have got a smack in the face if she had manners and didn't try to hit the bouncer in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    "...if she had a bottle?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Shouldn't have punched her not because she was a woman but because a punch wasn't required in this case. Bouncers should have restraint, they are generally dealing with drunk people and in this case someone who was obviously a lot weaker so actually punching as opposed to pushing away or restraining should be a last resort (maybe not quite last resort but definitely down the line)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    She did well to stay on her feet - leaning into the punch, already off balance, high heels and looks like the ground might be wet. Another few rounds and she'd take him!

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Return of the *SMACK*


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 109 ✭✭Dublin Pintman


    Equality in action. Prp tip: never start a fight with someone bigger than you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    I think the person who throws a punch deserves a punch back, woman or no woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Can't have been that much of a punch considering she was left standing, I was expecting something much worse.

    That being said, he is a bouncer, he was in no real danger even if she had connected, so he should be looking to defuse the situation which he easily could have done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Ha ha he did right with her, scummy bitch.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're allowed use reasonable force to defend yourself. As far as I'm concerned if someone comes at you it's reasonable to assume they're a threat until it's very clear otherwise. Obviously the Rambos will say he should just bearhug her and use some nifty stuff to neutralise her. **** that. If he gets her in a bear hug she can gouge, stamp, bite still.
    I would say fair play to him but a swing like that and she's still standing in heels. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭minikin


    Liverpool is in Ireland now? When did that happen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,338 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Woman goes to punch man, man ducks and punches woman in self defence.

    Where's the issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    I'm not a fan of violence in general regardless of the agressor's gender but I can only sympathize with the bouncer here.

    I mean what's he supposed to do....stand there quietly while the woman hits him just because she's a she?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    I think he took advantage of the situation.

    Western culture is presently on an equality trip thats gone too far.

    Men and women are different, that must be accepted, it answers many questions.

    Saying the opposite works to the favor of the woman who's been unfairly mistreated or dismissed as not as capable when she was all along.

    This punching situation however, is the price paid for the above womans benefit.

    By all means he had the right to an open hand ol' west style bitch slap.

    But not a full punch, thats too dangerous.


    In a more 50's scenario he'd be in trouble.
    But then again, in a more 50's scenario women would be told they shouldn't look to progress in a career.

    The rough comes with the smooth.
    Can't have it both ways - you're equal or you're not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Looks like a sort of instinctual smack to me. It's not like he had a good long think about it and then punched her. She swung aggressively, he countered with what was, from the looks of it, not a full force hit but more of a smack or clout.

    I think she got what she deserved - as to whether or not the bouncer should be investigated, I'd be inclined to say no given the circumstances, he didn't exactly brutalise her and she certainly started it and invited it on herself.

    Don't know if it's true or not but apparently she had been ejected before that for rowdy behavior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,601 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    That's Liverpool women for ya :P

    Watched it and while I think if a woman attacks a man he has to be able to defend himself, I don't think she was putting much of fist fight here.

    Think he was ott, but she was in the wrong too, she did draw the first punch.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    What do you reckon folks, did the bouncer do right?

    I'm kind of conflicted on this one. I absolutely believe that it's a scummy thing for a man to hit a woman but equally you can't allow half the population free reign to lash out at men either.

    I think I'm going to go with equal rights here and say that he did right. She tried to assault him and the argument could be made that he acted in self defence.

    Am I in the minority in thinking this?


    No, the scumbag didn't do right, and that's all he is. There's no "equal rights" argument here when the doorman is in a position where he is obliged to behave in a professional manner. Patrons are only obliged not to behave like scumbags. Two wrongs don't make a right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭The Pheasant2


    If you're gonna resort to violence expect violence in return - gender shouldn't come into it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    If you are prepared to dish it then you have to be prepared to take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Winterlong wrote: »

    whoever is still taking vertical videos in 2017 should be punched

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    She was the aggressor so deserved it.

    Its one of those things in the fight or flight mode.

    His punch was not a proper full force one as if he had she would have went down like a sack of potatoes.

    Simple solution don't go starting and these things won't tend to happen.


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