Ridley Scott: Aliens exist and they will come for us ....

Sure they surely can't be much worse than humans

Dementia is a bitch.

Cloudio9 wrote: »

He seems to assume that the aliens would be kind of American/ aggressive. If they're so infinitely superior and we're not a threat because we're primitive morons then there's probably no motivation to wipe us out. Obviously we'd have to expect some anal probing but they've probably got some really advanced alien lube.

Doesn't generally go well for less advanced society when a more advanced society pays a visit, look at human history, African slaves, wiping out native Indians etc. Think it was Stephen Hawkins that said if a alien ever pays a visit it will surely be hostile

Deleted User wrote: »

But if they have mastered intergalactic space travel, then we would probably appear as ants to them as they would be so much more advanced than us. Would you cross the road if you saw some ants ðŸœ:-)

I dunno, fecking ants can give ya a nasty little nip if it gets up the ankle. One time I was working on a job and at least 10 of the bastards got up my pants up to my chest where the 10 of them proceeded to sting me all at once. I thought I was having a heart attack. I'd cross the road.

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

It's not in the slightest.

Not in the slightest what?

buried wrote: »

If there are indeed Aliens capable of intergalactic space travel, stands to reason they would probably be intelligent beings, which leads me to believe they wouldn't come anywhere near us.
I'm not that bright myself but If I'm walking down the street and see a large gang of people killing each other with guns, drugs, oil and religion over the other side of the street the last thing I'll do is go over there.

These aliens have their I-phones out and are filming us

Its ironic that the more that we learn the more likely it seems that Independence Day Aliens or the Borg may be more likely to exist than some hyper evolved, hyper intelligent, hyper advanced, hyper peaceful space blobs.

If Scotty was right and that we nor any other species can break the laws of physics we could have a universe teeming with life but we'll never get to meet them because the distances between us are just too great. Odds are that very few species will ever get to communicate with each other in any meaningful way either unless they were lucky enough to evolve on a planet in a couple of hundred lightyear wide bubble that happened to contain another planet where intelligent life evolved at virtually the same time. ie. Doesn't matter if intelligent life existed on a planet orbiting a star only 50 light years away....if it evolved during the time of the dinosaurs here on earth. Spectroscopy might be able to tell them there is life on earth but they'll never get to visit, a probe from them would take epochs to get here and Dinosaurs don't have radio. 60 million years later the Dinosaurs are gone and Earth finally has an intelligent sentient species....but the species around that star 50 lightyears away are long dead.

However, if Faster Than Light travel is possible by some means then its probably likely that a species doesn't strictly need to invent it itself. The species just needs to be advanced enough to develop an advanced AI and its the AI that figures out FTL travel. You've now put FTL travel into the hands of a species that likely still believes in God, rapes and murders and is capable of hacking each other to bits or blowing each other to pieces. ie. Humanity will be the same in 50 or 100 years time, but AI might give us FTL before this century is out!

Convergent evolution probably means that the requirements for intelligence to arise are the same everywhere and evolution will arrive at similar solutions. Intelligence requires lots of calories for the brain so will likely only arise in predators. Predators invariably have binocular vision, Binocular vision is required for depth perception and manipulating the world. Freeing up some appendages to more easily manipulate the world. ie. Convergent evolution likely means that most of not all intelligent life is bipedal with two eyes and at least two arms.

So ironically although Hollywood went with anthropomorphic aliens for simple cost of special effects and makeup reasons, its actually more likely to be closer to the truth than some alien squid creature!

In that scenario, if we near future humans manage to maintain control of the AI after its given us FTL, we might end up being the equivalent of the rapacious Aliens in Independence day. If we lose control of the AI and it wipes us out we might end up being the equivalent of the Borg or Terminators.

This is why no less than Stephen Hawking believes that in the event of FTL being possible and us being visited by aliens its actually more likely they'll be not much more evolved than us socially or culturally or morally and that there is a very great risk of the lessons of the past when a more advanced human civilisation met a less advanced one holding true for contact between humanity and alien life.

Quick lesson on Light Years for the un-informed..

Because the distance in space is so vast (nearly incomprehensible to the average mind), we have to use the term 'Light Years'.

Why Light Years you ask?

Because light is the fastest travelling thing known to mankind at the moment.

Light travels at around 86,000 miles per second! That' right - Per second! About 5.1 millions miles a minute!!!

So over a full 24 hr day - Light will travel 3,715,200,00 miles (give or take a few yards)

So when you hear the white coats saying - Planet X is about 30 Light Years away.... Man, that's a long way away!!

So... If some advanced race received all our transmissions and carbon footprint fallout, do you really think they'll saddle up and travel for Ga-Zillion's of years just to see us? (Why? Are we that interesting? And we will probably have nuked ourselves long before they complete 1% of the inter galatical journey)

Speed of light travel ? No proof or evidence that it I possible. Even if it is - The current structure of the human body could never withstand it (note- most people get sick on a roller coaster / try cranking up the speed to light speed!)

Can't really see any issue with his logic.

As usual we have the centre of the universe complex, if there's other life out there then they're most definitely going to want to come to earth.

If s species on another planet has managed to achieve interstellar travel then they would have sufficient technology to have a look at whats going on down here without us knowing and see how big of s sh*t show we've created for ourselves.

My guess is that there's some beacon floating in space transmitting a message to all travellers to give this one a miss, it's not worth the hassle.

judeboy101 wrote: »

Hopefully they'll take him first for his crimes against humanity i.e. Bladerunner 2 and Prometheus

Bladerunner 2? Will have to wait til he gets out of prison. That said, he only got 5 or 6 years

flanna01 wrote: »

Quick lesson on Light Years for the un-informed..

Because the distance in space is so vast (nearly incomprehensible to the average mind), we have to use the term 'Light Years'.

Why Light Years you ask?

Because light is the fastest travelling thing known to mankind at the moment.

Light travels at around 86,000 miles per second! That' right - Per second! About 5.1 millions miles a minute!!!

So over a full 24 hr day - Light will travel 3,715,200,00 miles (give or take a few yards)

So when you hear the white coats saying - Planet X is about 30 Light Years away.... Man, that's a long way away!!

So... If some advanced race received all our transmissions and carbon footprint fallout, do you really think they'll saddle up and travel for Ga-Zillion's of years just to see us? (Why? Are we that interesting? And we will probably have nuked ourselves long before they complete 1% of the inter galatical journey)

Speed of light travel ? No proof or evidence that it I possible. Even if it is - The current structure of the human body could never withstand it (note- most people get sick on a roller coaster / try cranking up the speed to light speed!)

That's some quality Mansplaining there chief.