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RTE slams "secret" producer for telling the truth?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Does your job not sign up to the tax saver scheme?

    Didn't know taxis were considered public transport


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Caliden wrote: »
    Didn't know taxis were considered public transport

    You wanted the tax payer to be involved in how you get to work. I mentioned we can be.

    Don't go moving goalposts because it doesn't suit your wit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭angryIreGamer


    marvin80 wrote: »

    she has no response and yet still gets a whole article in the indo. Shes great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,906 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    marvin80 wrote: »

    Unsurprising considering what they said about her
    We have stopped making shows for the under 50s. Oh sorry, Vogue comes out of her mansion now and then to patronise marginalised communities. ‪#edgy‬. Sorry, that's bitchy. But I spent time making docs. Vogues 'docs' go against all the decent aspects of Rte. Selling its ethics for viewers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    You wanted the tax payer to be involved in how you get to work. I mentioned we can be.

    Don't go moving goalposts because it doesn't suit your wit.

    You moved the goalposts. How is public transport similar to get a taxi to/from work directly to your front door?
    The only way they're similar is they both have a driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    marvin80 wrote: »

    Sure she'd probably want them thrown into a camp with the rest of the loser immigrants.


    Also, look at the state of that lineup.
    That should be brought to court and used as evidence for why its ok to forego you're tv licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Looks like the poor fcuk has been hunted down and captured.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Andy Magic


    I used to work there, I wasn't related to anyone so I left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Caliden wrote: »
    Didn't know taxis were considered public transport

    Of course they are! Available to the public, can use bus lanes etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭newbie2


    afatbollix wrote: »
    A few years ago TV3 made the weakest link. RTE gave them a great quote to film it at RTE studios they had 3 weeks to film it.

    What they didn't realise was that with the unions it was 10am to 5pm working hours only meaning even if you were in the middle of a take the camera ops walked off set.

    Then when someone was kicked off the show they remove the plinth that the person stood behind. But you needed three people to do it. An electrician had to come down to unplug the light and two set hands had to lift it up and remove it. If you remember the show it was a 2 minute round followed by a removal of a person but in the RTE way the electrician walked back to the office each time and a runner had to be sent out and find them. One person could have done it rules be rules. It took 7 weeks to film in the end.

    Also, the two man jib camera is a joke, Seen it in action on a bank holiday the camera op was behind the crowd seats sitting down while a woman was lifting the camera up and down. Prob on triple pay too.

    I've struck through the statements that are factually incorrect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Alonzo Screeching Peacock


    marvin80 wrote: »

    Oh thank god we get a Vouge daily article from the indo- thought it would be her attending the opening of a crisp packet by Stevens green


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Is that the same Vogue Williams who signed a legally binding contract that stated she would engage in sexual intercourse with Brian McFadden and solely Brian McFadden for the rest of her natural life? You'll forgive me if I don't respect her judgement...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,382 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Caliden wrote: »
    I wish I could expense my travel and get the tax payer to foot the bill.

    Any public servants on travel expenses get it from the taxpayer, so what?

    Join the PS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,526 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Any public servants on travel expenses get it from the taxpayer, so what?

    Join the PS!

    There is a big difference between being paid or covered for business travel and being paid for coming to/from work. No-one gets the costs of coming to/from work (except for TDs travel allowance, but let's not go there). If people are ordering taxis on the RTE account to travel to/from work, that would be a breach of travel policy. However, if the taxis are being used to travel to/from locations where they are required to travel for work, like an outside broadcast or similar, that may well be a within the travel policy. But taxis from the office to/from home is not on.

    A good FOI will show a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Freindly


    If I got a taxi to and from work that would be a sizable bonus. Lower fuel bill, lower car wear and tear, extra time due to quicker commutes using the bus lane. These expenses are probably a huge scandal waiting to erupt which would explain RTE going on the offensive. People using RTE assets for personal use and claiming it on the tax payer. Sure wasn't an RTE DJ suspended because he got the idea of selling RTE equipment on Donedeal? What sort of environment is RTE? The idea of trying to sell my employers equipment is just unfathomable.

    Anyone with knowledge of FOIs know if RTE can be made reveal this sort of stuff?

    Vogue is a joke. Talentless but clearly well connected. Her documentaries are all trash. It's bad television. She's the symbol of everything that's wrong inside there.

    To coin a term from Trump reluctantly but I feel appropriate. RTE is a swamp. We need to drain this swamp. The silence from politician's is extremely disappointing. The anger we've seen from the media establishment from one producer just tweeting work practices shows that we are just scratching the surface on this. The reaction is understandable given how RTE was lobbying for increased funding from the taxpayer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Vogue was good on the first doc she did on Home and Away and the Leaving Cert.

    She's not suited to the more harder hitting stuff. The ones I saw I felt it was more about her than about the story.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Was thinking the same. It's all a fuss about nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Having the name "vogue" williams oozes c*nt

    But im sure shes not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Is he a boardsie?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    The taxi thing is no surprise. Gerry Ryan used to talk all the time about what the taxi driver said to him on a given day.

    Didnt Terry Wogan frequently complain that there was no room for him to move here in rte, so he went to the UK?

    Kids tv was cancelled by rte years ago, they publicly announced (iirc) that they hadn't enough viewers to justify keeping it going.

    So far this secret producer hasn't said anything earth shattering or divulged anything of interest. It's all a fuss about nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,906 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Kids tv was cancelled by rte years ago, they publicly announced (iirc) that they hadn't enough viewers to justify keeping it going.

    They lost the viewership because as the person points out they gutted the department and started making shows parents would approve of instead of stuff kids would want to watch, then when no kida watched they declared it dead cus nobody was watching.

    Alot of whats been revealed may have been suspected but nothing was known for certain by the wider public.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    VinLieger wrote: »
    They lost the viewership because as the person points out they gutted the department and started making shows parents would approve of instead of stuff kids would want to watch, then when no kida watched they declared it dead cus nobody was watching.

    Alot of whats been revealed may have been suspected but nothing was known for certain by the wider public.

    But that's not a revelation re kids tv..we could all see the crap they were coming up with. And can still see it with the evening schedule. I don't think it's any great secret that someone is pulling bad strings. We can see by the TV shows that are being chucked out and the people they keep re-investing in. Isn't it the way rte always was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The taxi thing is no surprise. Gerry Ryan used to talk all the time about what the taxi driver said to him on a given day.

    Didnt Terry Wogan frequently complain that there was no room for him to move here in rte, so he went to the UK?

    Kids tv was cancelled by rte years ago, they publicly announced (iirc) that they hadn't enough viewers to justify keeping it going.

    So far this secret producer hasn't said anything earth shattering or divulged anything of interest. It's all a fuss about nothing.

    Not really. There seems to be a culture of entitlement in some of Ireland's public bodies. People are paying a lot of money for TV licences and they're entitled to know whether their money is being spent correctly.

    So far we've heard of people spending large amounts of public money on taxis, staff that couldn't care less. work practices which cost the public far more than they need to and Lottie Ryan hired exclusively on the basis of whose vagina she came out of. I apologise for the vulgarity, but to me this sort of entitlement is vulgar and I will describe it as such. So no, an organisation which demands the already squeezed public paying more money for a pension while squandering our money for jobs for the boys isn't a fuss about nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,906 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    But that's not a revelation re kids tv..we could all see the crap they were coming up with. And can still see it with the evening schedule. I don't think it's any great secret that someone is pulling bad strings. We can see by the TV shows that are being chucked out and the people they keep re-investing in. Isn't it the way rte always was?

    TBH i had no idea the entire children's department had been gutted so thoroughly and methodically.

    Its interesting to know also the issues with unions is far worse than i assumed.

    Also I was unaware how stalled it had become re people being in the same positions for 15+ years which explains a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭valoren


    On the Kids show department, you could hire young irish animators, hire young drama students to do voice work etc, you could give people experience in all aspects of such a production for irish made, irish centric content. Sure it may be a shambles but at least an attempt would have been made, and at the very minimum some talented people would gain experience in such projects.

    But as the producer points out that is simply too much WORK.

    It involves management to actually manage. It would involve recruitment, administration etc etc.

    And when you've been getting by on a six figure salary for doing the very bare minimum, creaming it on expenses, then why would you even consider taking that on for yourself. You'd be crazy to and that is the essence of the problem. You are very comfortably 'stuck'.

    Consider that Ray D'Arcy earns upwards of half a million euro a year. He is almost a perfect analogy for RTE as an organisation. Unprofessional, disinterested, poor attitude, hired on a not what you know but who you know basis and obscenely well paid for the output.

    That's what this is about, RTE needs to change/adapt or else it's going to become obsolete, if it hasn't already.
    There is a need to put efficiency in place in terms of use of public money. To be innovate invites effort and as we have been seeing that will possibly never be the case in RTE until it becomes such a liability in terms of loss making that it becomes a political issue.

    There is nothing salacious in these tweets. It is constructive feedback. And from the reaction from RTE hierarchy and the media circles that the reaction has been to discredit, expose, smear, belittle and insult this person speaks volumes for the attitude in our publically funded national broadcaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    I tagged vogue and that rat Doherty when replying to a tweet about people trying to expose the secret producer and this was her reply before immediately blocking me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,906 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I tagged vogue and that rat Doherty when replying to a tweet about people trying to expose the secret producer and this was her reply before immediately blocking me.

    "get a life" come one vogue thats like soooo 2003


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I'm in a minority it would appear, but think RTE do a fairly good job in general. Certainly get more bang for your buck with their output, than with the ridiculous sums SKY charge for endless repeats, hyped up sports events, and tabloid 24 hour news.

    Yeah you are in the minority.


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