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Booked a family holiday, now the nerves.

  • 07-02-2018 09:09AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭


    Booked a package holiday to Costa dorada and I find out we are flying with Cello Airlines!!??

    I'm feeling so nervous that I'm thinking of forgoing my large deposit.......(and marriageðŸ˜)
    It's months away and I'm feeling sick with nerves already, I'm a bad flyer at the beat of times but now this!!
    Anybody go with them before?


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    Phil.x wrote: »
    Booked a package holiday to Costa dorada and I find out we are flying with Cello Airlines!!??

    I'm feeling so nervous that I'm thinking of forgoing my large deposit.......(and marriageðŸ˜)
    It's months away and I'm feeling sick with nerves already, I'm a bad flyer at the beat of times but now this!!
    Anybody go with them before?

    The Queen has, Irish football team has, UK pm, Rolling Stones. So I think you are in very safe hands.

    https://corporatejetinvestor.com/articles/Cello_Aviation_ABJ_royal_VVIP_329/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    Phil.x wrote: »
    Booked a package holiday to Costa dorada and I find out we are flying with Cello Airlines!!??

    I'm feeling so nervous that I'm thinking of forgoing my large deposit.......(and marriageðŸ˜)
    It's months away and I'm feeling sick with nerves already, I'm a bad flyer at the beat of times but now this!!
    Anybody go with them before?

    what is it that trips you so bad? An airline that you haven't heard about before? Perhaps you should look into one of those fear of flying courses?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Cello Aviation are a private jet charter company based in the U.K. I’d be surprised if they’re doing holiday charter flights but you never know.
    If indeed they are operating your flight you’d be in excellent hands, they are based in the U.K. and so would be held to the same standard of safety as BA, EasyJet and other major carriers based in the U.K. and under regulation from the U.K. CAA.
    No need to be anxious at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Unless you see both the pilot and co pilot wearing parachutes, as already said you have nothing to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    martinsvi wrote: »
    what is it that trips you so bad? An airline that you haven't heard about before? Perhaps you should look into one of those fear of flying courses?

    I think the plane is well over 20years old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Phil.x wrote: »
    I think the plane is well over 20years old.

    They only have one plane??

    I'd imagine a lot of airlines have 20 year old planes in their fleet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    Phil.x wrote: »
    I think the plane is well over 20years old.

    Chances are high that nothing bar a frame from that plane is 20 years old - engines, avionics, seats etc all have their certified life span and they get changed regularly. I've personally piloted a light aircraft that was made in 1961, very few things were original! You have nothing to worry about


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Phil.x wrote: »
    martinsvi wrote: »
    what is it that trips you so bad? An airline that you haven't heard about before? Perhaps you should look into one of those fear of flying courses?

    I think the plane is well over 20years old.

    Honestly 20 Years is nothing for a commercial aircraft. Most airlines when they buy an aircraft new would keep it in their fleet for 20 years at least! With many airlines flying their aircraft for 30 + years. This is really normal and I’d bet good money you’ve been and an aircraft before that’s 20 years old or close to it and not even realised.
    As mentioned above every few years Planes would get new parts/refurbishment etc you could step into a cabin with brand new seats and carpets that would give the impression of a new aircraft but it could be 15/20 years in service, again totally normal and very very common


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    N904DL flying from Atlanta to Daytona Beach today, 31 years old!

    N365FE flying from Houston to Memphis, 47 years old!

    Plus the Aer Lingus A321's are all almost 20 years old.

    All is good, but if things are that bad maybe look at Fly Fearless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    I’m intrigued about this package holiday flight being flown by Cello, I know they’re an upmarket ad-hoc charter airliner flying Avros (& previously a 737 classic that flew for Tui Netherlands a few summers ago) so I’m surprised they’re doing package holiday flights


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Cello Aviation will be taking over most of ASL's flying schedule this year with FNC cancelled. Air Nostrum also make a return to DUB replacing WX on Alghero and Menorca. Ernest will also appear.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Cello Aviation will be taking over most of ASL's flying schedule this year with FNC cancelled. Air Nostrum also make a return to DUB replacing WX on Alghero and Menorca. Ernest will also appear.

    Do you know why ASL aren’t completing their usual charter work this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Do you know why ASL aren’t completing their usual charter work this year?

    Apart from the reports they are taking over EI sun ops at Belfast, no idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Phil.x wrote: »
    I think the plane is well over 20years old.

    I'll let you into a little know but open secret, the next time you fly Aer Lingus one of their craft it could be even older!
    The oldest plane in the EI fleet is wait for it, 25 years old!
    So out of 53 aircraft, Aer Lingus have 7 craft now over 17 years old, including 4 of them been 20 years plus.
    Does that piece of information change your perceptions of EI in anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    martinsvi wrote: »
    Chances are high that nothing bar a frame from that plane is 20 years old - engines, avionics, seats etc all have their certified life span and they get changed regularly. I've personally piloted a light aircraft that was made in 1961, very few things were original! You have nothing to worry about

    Thanks for this, it helps and I will keep that in my mind when the day comes.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    faceman wrote: »
    You might find these videos of use OP.


    Two things were made clear for me in this video.

    1/ The captain throttles back the engines soon after take off to limit noise on the ground.
    I never knew this and i've felt this before and thought does this guy know what he's doing, it feels like he's put the brakes on by mistake or maybe fainted in the cockpit.

    2/ The speed when coming into land. Air traffic control is telling the captain what speed to do so as to fit in with the other planes in the sky.

    Same thing again, I'm thinking this pilot must be new as it feels like any slower and the plane will just drop out of the air.

    Thanks for that.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Phil.x wrote: »
    faceman wrote: »
    You might find these videos of use OP.


    Two things were made clear for me in this video.

    1/ The captain throttles back the engines soon after take off to limit noise on the ground.
    I never knew this and i've felt this before and thought does this guy know what he's doing, it feels like he's put the brakes on by mistake or maybe fainted in the cockpit.

    2/ The speed when coming into land. Air traffic control is telling the captain what speed to do so as to fit in with the other planes in the sky.

    Same thing again, I'm thinking this pilot must be new as it feels like any slower and the plane will just drop out of the air.

    Thanks for that.

    You see, knowledge is power, I think you’d really benefit from doing one of the courses, or if you’d prefer to avoid the cost look into some books or just do research online yourself,there are tens of videos like above all over YouTube etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    https://youtu.be/BUl6PooveJE

    Though it’s probably a bit different for aircraft :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    CLJ8621 from Dublin to Lanzarote https://fr24.com/CLJ8621/1159eed4

    Here she is, I'm not on it yet but in a few weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    I think you'd find a course with a simulator session very valuable as it will explain all those little bits and pieces of the flight phases that you don't understand and are worrying about. This crowd does such sessions for a reasonable price: http://fearofflying.ie/


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