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'My drink was spiked' - The 'dog ate my homework' excuse

  • 23-02-2018 04:48PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,999 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/latest-teens-could-have-died-from-alcohol-intoxication-at-west-cork-disco-says-specialist-829505.html

    Dr Chris Luke, a consultant in emergency medicine at CUH and the Mercy University Hospital....criticised the ‘my drink was spiked’ response of some parents and teenagers caught up in similar incidents.
    He said such spiking incidents are rare in Ireland and he encounters such cases maybe once or twice a year.

    “I can’t tell you how upsetting it is for staff in hospitals to be working flat out, minding the young people of this country, only to be abused by parents who are alleging some mysterious third party spiked their teenager’s drink.
    “If it were the case, we would have the worst epidemic of drink spiking in the history of Europe and I don’t believe that is the case.”
    - Irish Examiner


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,169 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    How do you spike someones naggan of vodka when it is stuffed down their socks?
    Parents need a dose of reality - their angels are not angels!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    Teenagers drinking? Fucking country is going down the tubes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    To be fair, that bottle of coke was spiked!! with vodka... It's just a mystery to the little darlings how the vodka got there..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,213 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I've lost count of the number of times my drink has been spiked. And it's always the 12th one they spike. Bastards.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He’s right though. The amount of girls I used to hang out with when I was younger that would say their drinks were spiked.

    No Mary, you just drank half a litre of vodka in an hour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,179 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Just because you spike your own drink doesn't mean that it wasn't spiked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,153 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Does Dr Chris moonlight as a drinks detective or how does he know which cases are genuine???

    I'm sure a lot of people use the excuse and it's total nonsense, but if Dr Chris has some foolproof way to tell the nonsense from the genuine we are all ears...

    Person A might be drinking spirit+coke at a party and Person B, with an ulterior motive, gives them a double or more instead of a single... that's a low level form of spiking but one or two of those and someone is over the edge.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    The dog ate my homework excuse is a classic. A fella in my 6th class came up with "My budgie ate the page"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    I've gotten black out drunk more times than I can count and I am fully sure it was all self-inflicted and no one spiked my drink. You do hear people using it as an excuse sometimes when they get off their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    How do you spike someones naggan of vodka when it is stuffed down their socks?
    Parents need a dose of reality - their angels are not angels!

    Every mother thinks her duck is a swan.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    I was at a works party years ago and a few lads put a few e in the bosses pint.

    I didn’t find out until later but was wondering why he was dancing like a madman and kissing the face off some aul wan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    It is every drunk embarrassed woman's favourite excuse to avoid responsibility for her own behaviour.

    Watch this medic get torn a new one in the media in the coming days by some professional outrage artist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    In the innocent good old days we always seemed to blame that last 'bad pint'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    I was at a works party years ago and a few lads put a few e in the bosses pint.

    I didn’t find out until later but was wondering why he was dancing like a madman and kissing the face off some aul wan.

    This happened to me once. Not the kissing an aul one bit or the work party but yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Does Dr Chris moonlight as a drinks detective or how does he know which cases are genuine???

    I'm sure a lot of people use the excuse and it's total nonsense, but if Dr Chris has some foolproof way to tell the nonsense from the genuine we are all ears...

    Person A might be drinking spirit+coke at a party and Person B, with an ulterior motive, gives them a double or more instead of a single... that's a low level form of spiking but one or two of those and someone is over the edge.

    Oh come on. Hordes of drunken kids and then parents defending their excessive drinking with some 'spiking' bs. Most kids will drink when they can get away with it, but responsible parents won't enable them and invent excuses for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,213 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    In the innocent good old days we always seemed to blame that last 'bad pint'.

    Or the curry on the way home.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A mother made a big fuss some years ago about her darling daughters drink being spiked. She was on some radio show. A hospital A&E consultant came on and said that her drink was most likely spiked with more drink. He said that drinking double vodkas and Red Bull was the cause of a spike in admissions to A& E.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    As someone who used to have to spend fifteen to twenty hours every Monday looking at video footage, the ratio of people who claim their drinks were spiked to those who actually had their drinks spiked is in the many hundreds to one. Problem is, that makes the bastards that actually do slip a Mickey a lot harder to catch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Its the same pathetic excuse as the 'dirty glass' excuse used to explain some tool emptying his guts after too much drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,153 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Oh come on. Hordes of drunken kids and then parents defending their excessive drinking with some 'spiking' bs. Most kids will drink when they can get away with it, but responsible parents won't enable them and invent excuses for them.

    My main point is... He said such spiking incidents are rare in Ireland and he encounters such cases maybe once or twice a year.

    I read the article and a lot of what he says was reasonable, common sense, he seems like a decent guy but that throwaway line came out of nowhere with zero justification... My expectation is that the majority of cases are fake but I'm just curious as to how he's so sure which ones are genuine and fake.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,153 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    A mother made a big fuss some years ago about her darling daughters drink being spiked. She was on some radio show. A hospital A&E consultant came on and said that her drink was most likely spiked with more drink. He said that drinking double vodkas and Red Bull was the cause of a spike in admissions to A& E.

    Most likely yes.
    But how does the A&E consultant know in this specific case whether it was genuine or fake.
    And if he doesn't, how does he know it's the most likely explanation???

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Its the same pathetic excuse as the 'dirty glass' excuse used to explain some tool emptying his guts after too much drink.

    Dirty glass can and will make you sick though, even when you're not drinking alcohol. But yeah, I know what you mean.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Most likely yes.
    But how does the A&E consultant know in this specific case whether it was genuine or fake.
    And if he doesn't, how does he know it's the most likely explanation???

    Experience. He wasn’t talking about that specific case, however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    My main point is... He said such spiking incidents are rare in Ireland and he encounters such cases maybe once or twice a year.

    I read the article and a lot of what he says was reasonable, common sense, he seems like a decent guy but that throwaway line came out of nowhere with zero justification... My expectation is that the majority of cases are fake but I'm just curious as to how he's so sure which ones are genuine and fake.
    He is talking about averages. And you can generalise about averages. He didn't name kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    I was at a works party years ago and a few lads put a few e in the bosses pint.

    I didn’t find out until later but was wondering why he was dancing like a madman and kissing the face off some aul wan.

    That's a rotten thing to do to another human being.

    What if he'd had an adverse reaction or took a heart attack or something. Serious charges would've been leveled against the perpetrators.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    My main point is... He said such spiking incidents are rare in Ireland and he encounters such cases maybe once or twice a year.

    I read the article and a lot of what he says was reasonable, common sense, he seems like a decent guy but that throwaway line came out of nowhere with zero justification... My expectation is that the majority of cases are fake but I'm just curious as to how he's so sure which ones are genuine and fake.
    There was a study from a few years back(UCD IIRC I'll try and dig up a link) where they looked at toxicology reports over a two year period as far as I recall, where patients insisted their drinks were spiked and asked their bloodwork be checked. And they didn't find a single case in the results. They did find excess alcohol and other drugs, mostly cannabis, but of rohypnol etc nada.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭valoren


    I think the point he was making is not about teens drinking vodka neat to the point of requiring hospitalisation but rather made one the one hand in support of the staff who really had better things to be doing than tending to scuttered dopes and on the other hand was made to call out the deluded parents who are clearly in denial and that they need to have a talk with them about not being complete moron's when drinking in future instead of insulting his and the staff's intelligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There was a study from a few years back(UCD IIRC I'll try and dig up a link) where they looked at toxicology reports over a two year period as far as I recall, where patients insisted their drinks were spiked and asked their bloodwork be checked. And they didn't find a single case in the results. They did find excess alcohol and other drugs, mostly cannabis, but of rohypnol etc nada.

    I'd be interested in that wibbs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,510 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    The amount of times I've heard it claimed by women I know to think nothing of having 5/6 doubles in an evening has always bemused me tbh.

    Sure love, it was something other than the half bottle of spirits you consumed that lowered your inhibitions enough to cause a scene with your dramatics / sleep with another drunken member of staff and puke all over yourself.

    Nope, it couldn't possibly be that you abused the most widely abused drug in the world and don't want to accept responsibility for your own actions. Impossible. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭blue note


    I've been caught by surprise plenty of times with how quickly the drink has hit me. Usually I could have 3 or 4 pints and be well under the effect of the drink but not be drunk. But the odd time I could have 4 pints and be properly drunk. More often then not I can think back and realise I was tired or hadn't eaten anything substantial or something. But occasionally, without explanation it just hit me worse than normal.

    It's surprising how many people this happens to who think that their drink must have been spiked.


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