UK: Up to 1,000 children ‘drugged, beaten and raped’ in Telford grooming scandal

MilesMorales1 · 11-03-2018 04:35PM #1

Girls as young as 11 were drugged, beaten and raped in Telford, with up to 1,000 children estimated to have suffered abuse in the town, a new investigation has found.

An investigation by the Sunday Mirror uncovered the shocking grooming scandal, believed to have been taking place over a 40 year period.
As a result of the findings, Telford MP Lucy Allan has called for an inquiry into child sexual exploitation in the town.

Allegations reported to date back to the 1980s are said to have been mishandled by authorities, with many perpetrators going unpunished, while it is claimed similar abuse is continuing in the area.

The Tory MP previously called for a Rotherham-style inquiry into the allegations and called the latest reports ‘extremely serious and shocking’.
An estimate of the number of victims was calculated with the help of Professor Liz Kelly, from the Child and Woman Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University, who reviewed the Mirror’s figures.

Dino Nocivelli, a specialist child abuse solicitor, told the Mirror: ‘These children were treated as sexual commodities by men who inflicted despicable acts of abuse.

‘The survivors deserve an inquiry. They need to know how abuse took place for so long and why so many perpetrators have never been brought to justice.’
Seven men were jailed in 2013 following Operation Chalice, a police inquiry into child prostitution in the Telford area.

The paper says authorities were warned of the abuse a decade before Operation Chalice.

Despite similar high-profile cases in Rochdale and Rotherham, authorities in Telford repeatedly failed to stamp out a network of abusers.

The Mirror’s 18-month investigation reveals abuse on unprecedented levels. We found:

Social workers knew of abuse in the 1990s but police took a decade to launch a probe
Council staff viewed abused and trafficked children as “prostitutes” instead of victims, according to previously unseen files
Authorities failed to keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of “racism”
Police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened
One victim said cops tried to stop her finding out why her abusers had not been prosecuted because they feared she would talk to us

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/1000-children-drugged-beaten-raped-telford-grooming-scandal-7377736/

According to twitter (which I was unaware of) this was May's brief before she 'lost' the dossier, then when she became PM it all got swept under the carpet. And the fact that abused children got neglected and left to be abused at least partially out of fear that police thought they would be labelled as 'racist' is so ****ing disgusting I can't bear it.

ceadaoin. · 11-03-2018 04:51PM

It's still happening all over the UK and continues.to happen even in places where the gangs have supposedly been stopped. Others just take their place. It's sickening that nothing is done about it.

eviltwin · 11-03-2018 04:52PM

Well connected people involved in the abuse and cover up no doubt

handlemaster · 11-03-2018 04:53PM

Would it be a shock that the police themselves were involved. It would explain a lot.

Jack Kanoff · 11-03-2018 04:55PM

1000 children abused.... I can't even imagine that without feeling physically sick

RDM_83 again · 11-03-2018 05:14PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Well connected people involved in the abuse and cover up no doubt

Involved in minimising the potential fallout but I doubt it will involve anybody that's traditionally viewed as the British establishment carrying out the abuse.

It will likely be the same as other places, a Labour led council that doesn't want to disturb the Pakistani block vote so it views the children of their traditional supporters as disposable.

I may be wrong since it's early days but I doubt it

Raging_Ninja · 11-03-2018 05:20PM

Another state-sanctioned paedophile ring, protected because it's racist to arrest then or some shít.

Malayalam · 11-03-2018 05:23PM

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

Vic_08 · 11-03-2018 05:28PM

Malayalam wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

You aren't.

That's not to say the toffs aren't at it too. That is part of the problem, they are unlikely to be part of the Pakistani rings but the less fuss that is made of organised Paedo abusers the less chance the establishment rings get a spotlight shone on them as well. It has definitely been in the interest of a lot of powerful people to keep a lid on how widespread and organised the abuse of vulnerable children is.

Malayalam · 11-03-2018 05:33PM

Vic_08 wrote: »

You aren't.

That's not to say the toffs aren't at it too. That is part of the problem, they are unlikely to be part of the Pakistani rings but the less fuss that is made of organised Paedo abusers the less chance the establishment rings get a spotlight shone on them as well. It has definitely been in the interest of a lot of powerful people to keep a lid on how widespread and organised the abuse of vulnerable children is.

I have heard of it. Read some of the darker stuff, maybe what might be called conspiracy material, though generally avoid it as it's far too disturbing. It's almost impossible to get the head around it. I just don't have words for it.

ceadaoin. · 11-03-2018 05:34PM

Malayalam wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

Lots didn't look away, members of the community made reports and in some cases tried to stop abuse happening but the reports were either ignored or the person trying to do something was punished in some way. I can't remember where it was but I remember a story of a teacher being sacked for trying to stop one of her students getting into a car with her abusers. And there was the dad who was arrested for trying to help his daughter.

It seems to be mainly the police and social services who had the view that these girls weren't worthy of help and who allowed this to go on for decades.

Captain Obvious · 11-03-2018 05:39PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Involved in minimising the potential fallout but I doubt it will involve anybody that's traditionally viewed as the British establishment carrying out the abuse.

It will likely be the same as other places, a Labour led council that doesn't want to disturb the Pakistani block vote so it views the children of their traditional supporters as disposable.

I may be wrong since it's early days but I doubt it

I'd be surprised if that is the case. Some of the cases go back to the 1980's. It's very unlikely this will all be as part of one group. This is likely to be a mix of offenders from all walks of life.

goat2 · 11-03-2018 05:45PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/1000-children-drugged-beaten-raped-telford-grooming-scandal-7377736/

According to twitter (which I was unaware of) this was May's brief before she 'lost' the dossier, then when she became PM it all got swept under the carpet. And the fact that abused children got neglected and left to be abused at least partially out of fear that police thought they would be labelled as 'racist' is so ****ing disgusting I can't bear it.

was this family members doing the abusing to the children

Richard Hillman · 11-03-2018 05:47PM

And we're still at the tip of the iceberg. The numbers of confirmed cases in the UK is already close to 6 figures. Those are the ones we know about, it's easily double even treble.

Recreate it in the likes of France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden etc, were talking about a 7 figure number of girls that have been affected by these groups.

Towns like Rotherham (Population 100,000) Telford (150,000) and we have 4 digit figures of abused girls in each town. Replicate that in the Cities, St Denis, Tower Hamlets, Molenbeek, Malmo, Bradford, the list goes on and on. Sickening.

ceadaoin. · 11-03-2018 06:58PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

And we're still at the tip of the iceberg. The numbers of confirmed cases in the UK is already close to 6 figures. Those are the ones we know about, it's easily double even treble.

Recreate it in the likes of France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden etc, were talking about a 7 figure number of girls that have been affected by these groups.

Towns like Rotherham (Population 100,000) Telford (150,000) and we have 4 digit figures of abused girls in each town. Replicate that in the Cities, St Denis, Tower Hamlets, Molenbeek, Malmo, Bradford, the list goes on and on. Sickening.

Have there actually been similar cases uncovered in the cities you mention in France and Belgium?

11-03-2018 07:06PM

British Muslims are far less "liberal" on the whole than those on the continent so I would guess it happens less on the continent than in the UK.

RDM_83 again · 11-03-2018 07:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

British Muslims are far less "liberal" on the whole than those on the continent so I would guess it happens less on the continent than in the UK.

While religion might play a part from whats been seen before it's a Pakistani and some Bangladeshis thing
E.g it's quiet a narrow geographic background generally, focussing on just the religious aspect alone just allows people to dismiss it.

11-03-2018 07:26PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

While religion might play a part from whats been seen before it's a Pakistani and some Bangladeshis thing
E.g it's quiet a narrow geographic background generally, focussing on just the religious aspect alone just allows people to dismiss it.

And Turks... And Iraqis... And Indians. There's a common denominator and it's silly to pretend otherwise.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 11-03-2018 07:36PM

Even this Nostradamus/Einstein knew what was up over 7 years ago. But the police did nothing. Really sad and dark situation.

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

MilesMorales1 · 11-03-2018 07:39PM

**** the Labour party also not just the tories. They all facilitated this.

end of the road · 11-03-2018 09:29PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

agreed, and that is what britain has been for a long time. a very broken society.

Autochange · 11-03-2018 09:32PM

end of the road wrote: »

agreed, and that is what britain has been for a long time. a very broken society.

Take Britain now as to what Ireland will be like in 30 years.

Ulysses Gaze · 11-03-2018 09:36PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Even this Nostradamus/Einstein knew what was up over 7 years ago. But the police did nothing. Really sad and dark situation.

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

The Remix is where it is at

Ulysses Gaze · 11-03-2018 09:38PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

**** the Labour party also not just the tories. They all facilitated this.

Reality is though, the Labour Party dominate the councils and public services in these towns.

Mutant z · 11-03-2018 09:41PM

This is the sort of ultra PC sickness which is inflicting the UK certain votes are considered to be of a far greater importance than young girls lives it's disgusting.

MilesMorales1 · 11-03-2018 09:42PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Reality is though, the Labour Party dominate the councils and public services in these towns.

It's disgusting so it is. Allowing young girls to be sacrificed for votes, or fear of losing votes.

Ulysses Gaze · 11-03-2018 09:45PM

Mutant z wrote: »

This is the sort of ultra PC sickness which is inflicting the UK certain votes are considered to be of a far greater importance than young girls lives it's disgusting.

Well according to that very visible feminist halfwit Lily Allen, these working class girls would probably have been raped anyway!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5246685/Lily-Allen-sparks-fury-Rochdale-grooming-victims.html

Ulysses Gaze · 11-03-2018 09:47PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

It's disgusting so it is. Allowing young girls to be sacrificed for votes, or fear of losing votes.

It's a fear of losing votes, but it is also a fear of proving that certain, less than palatable right wing politicians (ahem Nick Griffin) were right along when they brought this to light over a decade ago.

SnakePlissken · 11-03-2018 09:49PM

But but But, the Roman Catholic Church.... something, something.

Anything to try and deviate from the current issue being discussed.

Mutant z · 11-03-2018 09:50PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's still happening all over the UK and continues.to happen even in places where the gangs have supposedly been stopped. Others just take their place. It's sickening that nothing is done about it.

In the UK they suppress anything that portrays multiculturalism in a negative light so they just ignore all this stuff and hope it all goes away.

Ulysses Gaze · 11-03-2018 10:03PM

Mutant z wrote: »

In the UK they suppress anything that portrays multiculturalism in a negative light so they just ignore all this stuff and hope it all goes away.

Look what happened to Sarah Champion when she spoke up. She is the elected Labour MP for Rotherham who believes that up to 1 million girls in the UK have been groomed by mainly Pakistani Muslims. She also stated that she still gets 1 to 3 girls a week coming to her clinic complaining about continued abuse.

She had to resign as shadow equalities minister because she wrote an article that highlighted that Britain has a problem with Pakistani men abusing white girls. She was pilloried by the Labour Party and Corbyn's supporters in Momentum and quit. She was called an Islamophobe, racist and a bigot.

UK: Up to 1,000 children ‘drugged, beaten and raped’ in Telford grooming scandal

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