avoiding garda checkpoint by taking a turn or doing a u turn

Sassygirl1999 · 30-05-2018 03:27PM #1

There seems to be no law broken when this is done, its frowned upon I think, is this correct?

I know a!l about the measures the garda take to catch those avoiding and rightly so but it's not against the law to do so safely

sexmag · 30-05-2018 03:57PM

No but if they see you it will be like a red flag to a bull and they will follow you. Guards have other guards waiting to follow people who avoid checkpoints, especially with all the gang violence lately

Walter Bishop · 30-05-2018 03:59PM

There isn't but seeing as they have the power to stop you anyway they'll certainly be interested in anyone they see trying to avoid a checkpoint.

Hitman3000 · 30-05-2018 04:20PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote:

I know a!l about the measures the garda take to catch those avoiding and rightly so but it's not against the law to do so safely

When you do this you are inviting the guard to form the opinion you have something to hide. They will of course endeavour to find out what that is and if there is nothing they will find something to justify having to chase after you. ; )

Sleeper12 · 30-05-2018 04:36PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote:

I know a!l about the measures the garda take to catch those avoiding and rightly so but it's not against the law to do so safely

In Dublin quite often you'd see a cop on a motorbike at the checkpoint & he'd be after you like a ton of of bricks

deeks · 30-05-2018 04:39PM

Just as well there's no law against mixed metaphors or this thread would have to be closed down :-)

Gatling · 30-05-2018 05:12PM

I seen a situation where several cars pulled out of a line at a check point and drive into an apartment complex with its own gate , quickly followed by a Garda van ,car and bike,
the car drivers tried to walk away as if they lived in the complex bike Garda stood at the top of the car park and shouts if the the drivers who left the line for the check point don't drive out of the complex they would check every car in the car park and anyone found with no tax the car's would be siezed and towed .
Rapidly owners from the apartments came out and told the people who didn't live there to leave as they weren't getting towed .

uck51js9zml2yt · 30-05-2018 05:19PM

Gatling wrote: »

I seen a situation where several cars pulled out of a line at a check point and drive into an apartment complex with its own gate , quickly followed by a Garda van ,car and bike,
the car drivers tried to walk away as if they lived in the complex bike Garda stood at the top of the car park and shouts if the the drivers who left the line for the check point don't drive out of the complex they would check every car in the car park and anyone found with no tax the car's would be siezed and towed .
Rapidly owners from the apartments came out and told the people who didn't live there to leave as they weren't getting towed .

How can they sieze a car on private property?

Lmklad · 30-05-2018 05:36PM

Davis Icy Dachshund wrote: »

How can they sieze a car on private property?

Depends how “private” the private property is!

denismc · 30-05-2018 05:38PM

Isn't making a u-turn illegal anyway!

Victor · 30-05-2018 05:53PM

denismc wrote: »

Isn't making a u-turn illegal anyway!

Only where signed (typically where there is a pedestrian crossing on a dual carriageway) or if it is dangerous.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/182/made/en/print

35 Ban on U-Turns

35. A vehicle being driven on a dual carriageway may not change direction of travel at a location where traffic sign number RUS 017 [No U-Turn] has been provided.

http://www.rotr.ie/Rules_of_the_road.pdf - pages 56-57

splinter65 · 30-05-2018 08:32PM

My neighbor slightly over the limit did a u turn, was followed by the squad car who told him they weren’t breathalysing and he’d have got away with it if he’d just stayed cool they were only checking windscreens.
His mother ( landed gentry) marched down to the barracks the next day and said “do you know who I am” so they threw the book at him and he was put off the road for 2 years.

Big Bag of Chips · 30-05-2018 08:37PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

In Dublin quite often you'd see a cop on a motorbike at the checkpoint & he'd be after you like a ton of of bricks

Roughly, how fast would that be?

Grassey · 30-05-2018 08:45PM

About the same as a tonne of feathers

GreeBo · 30-05-2018 08:48PM

Big Bag of Chips wrote: »

Roughly, how fast would that be?

14 cubic litres per hectare.

fritzelly · 30-05-2018 09:59PM

When I've seen checkpoints there's also been a few gardai at a "convenient" turn off (dead end) prior to the checkpoint to have a friendly word

Marcusm · 30-05-2018 10:24PM

Grassey wrote: »

About the same as a tonne of feathers

Not really; a ton is generally (here) 2,240lbs whereas a tonne is 1,000kgs. There’s a couple of stone between them!

Nonoperational · 30-05-2018 10:28PM

Marcusm wrote: »

Not really; a ton is generally (here) 2,240lbs whereas a tonne is 1,000kgs. There’s a couple of stone between them!

By God. I'll have to recalibrate my feather scale after that...

FreudianSlippers · 30-05-2018 10:32PM

Every time I've been in a checkpoint, a turn off or u-turn was impossible by the time you see the checkpoint.

worded · 30-05-2018 10:37PM

deeks wrote: »

Just as well there's no law against mixed metaphors or this thread would have to be closed down :-)

We'll burn that bridge when we get to it

BofaDeezNuhtz · 31-05-2018 01:23PM

worded wrote: »

We'll burn that bridge when we get to it

Or U-turn before it...

coylemj · 31-05-2018 03:10PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

There seems to be no law broken when this is done, its frowned upon I think, is this correct?

Correct. A motorist is obliged to bring the vehicle to a halt when indicated to do so by a member of AGS and to keep the vehicle stationary for such a period as will enable the member to discharge his duty.

But if you see the checkpoint way off in the distance and do a u-turn (where it legal to do so), you have not committed any offence. What's liable to happen next you have covered in your OP.

by8auj6csd3ioq · 03-06-2018 02:38PM

"Roughly, how fast would that be?"

as long as a piece of string

Wheety · 03-06-2018 02:56PM

Gatling wrote: »

I seen a situation where several cars pulled out of a line at a check point and drive into an apartment complex with its own gate , quickly followed by a Garda van ,car and bike,
the car drivers tried to walk away as if they lived in the complex bike Garda stood at the top of the car park and shouts if the the drivers who left the line for the check point don't drive out of the complex they would check every car in the car park and anyone found with no tax the car's would be siezed and towed .
Rapidly owners from the apartments came out and told the people who didn't live there to leave as they weren't getting towed .

How did you witness all parts of this story? And the owner's actually came out of their apartments after hearing the Guard clear enough from inside their apartment?

Sassygirl1999 · 03-06-2018 04:37PM

Wheety wrote: »

How did you witness all parts of this story? And the owner's actually came out of their apartments after hearing the Guard clear enough from inside their apartment?

it happened while the wind was shaking the barley

Sassygirl1999 · 06-06-2018 06:25PM

I think I understand now

sexmag · 06-06-2018 06:52PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

I think I understand now

Have you any other questions you'd like us to answer?

Sassygirl1999 · 06-06-2018 06:55PM

sexmag wrote: »

Have you any other questions you'd like us to answer?

yes

fin12 · 06-06-2018 06:57PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

There seems to be no law broken when this is done, its frowned upon I think, is this correct?

I know a!l about the measures the garda take to catch those avoiding and rightly so but it's not against the law to do so safely

I did this once a few years ago, I panicked because I was an L driver and had no L plates up. I was very lucky yo get away and don’t really know how they didn’t see me cause it was quite and dark at the time. In hindsight it was a stupid thing to do cause I could have been in a lot of trouble if they followed me.

MayoSalmon · 06-06-2018 06:58PM

There trained to look out for stuff like this

sexmag · 06-06-2018 07:03PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

yes

Shoot

worded · 06-06-2018 08:11PM

All you need to know about road blocks and what to do

https://youtu.be/uTbnALrM9rQ

Sassygirl1999 · 06-06-2018 08:19PM

sexmag wrote: »

Shoot

I'm not able to open a new thread

sexmag · 06-06-2018 09:25PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

I'm not able to open a new thread

......not sure how to help now....soz?

Sassygirl1999 · 06-06-2018 09:32PM

sexmag wrote: »

......not sure how to help now....soz?

you couldn't open one for me?

Are Am Eye · 06-06-2018 10:03PM

The turn off is where they know persons of interest will go and so set up there also(also/primarily)

There's only one way into a checkpoint

hullaballoo · 06-06-2018 10:06PM

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

you couldn't open one for me?

Moderator: if you seek to circumvent a moderator direction in this way again, you will be banned from the forum.

greenspurs · 07-06-2018 09:43AM

Another thread head into "Take me Out" territory ........

Especially with the 2 user names that are involved !!

:P

Gravelly · 07-06-2018 09:46AM

I was in the (long) queue to a checkpoint on the N22 outside Cork a few weeks ago (a popular spot for checkpoints) and I must have seen half a dozen cars do a u-turn and head off - none followed as far as I could see.

Bandana boy · 07-06-2018 09:57AM

I moved house back in October , my commute home from work is reasonably similar ,About two weeks after moving while driving on autopilot I turned left (route to old house) where I should go straight and ran into a check point , I used the no traffic coming other direction to make a U-Turn and head back the right direction and I had a Garda Motor bike pull me over about 3 mins later.

I explained what happened to a very dubious Garda , but having checked my tax and insurance etc he let me on my way.

Pat Mustard · 07-06-2018 10:05AM

Mod:

Off topic posts deleted and card handed out to troll.

EDIT: troll banned.

blackwhite · 07-06-2018 04:21PM

Wife was on her way home 3/4 weeks ago and spotted a checkpoint up the road. She had renewed her insurance but hadn’t put the new disc in the windscreen, it was still in an envelope in the glove box (don’t ask why - she does these things sometimes!)

So she decides the smart thing to do is to pull over and put the disc on display before approaching the checkpoint.

By the time she looked up from retrieving the envelope she had Garda on a bike pulling up beside her asking what she was doing. She said he just laughed at her when she explained

GM228 · 08-06-2018 07:44PM

Speak of the devil...

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1005167199609344001?s=19

avoiding garda checkpoint by taking a turn or doing a u turn

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