How long will I be disqualified from driving?

pintofguiness · 20-07-2018 02:11PM #1

hi i am 17 years of age and have only had my licence 2 months. I was caught tuesday morning at 2.35 am by the guards outside the pub i was done for failing to stop no nct,tax,insurance,no qualified driver with me and no i was not done for drink driving. i am just wanting someone to try and tell me what would the fine be roughly, will i lose my licence and how long will it take for the case to go to court.

facehugger99 · 20-07-2018 02:22PM

Username checks out.

wardides · 20-07-2018 02:24PM

A long time hopefully.

Be a court summons with a hefty amount of fines I'd say, and probably 6 months driving ban (assuming you'll get at least 7 points on your license).

CiniO · 20-07-2018 02:24PM

Just to clarify - you don't have a licence. Driving permit is not a licence and it's only for purposes of learning to drive.

I can't help with your question though as I have no experience in that

peter4918 · 20-07-2018 02:37PM

I’ll assume you didn’t stop for them because you didn’t have any of the documents you mentioned. It’s not what you want to hear now but drivers like you don’t deserve to be on the road.

Whatever about everything else, How did you think it was a good idea to drive with no insurance? Reckless towards yourself and other road users and in my opinion you do deserve some sort of a ban.

nuac · 20-07-2018 02:45PM

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You should talk to a solicitor practising in the relevant court area
Will leave open for general discussion for now

Pat Mustard · 20-07-2018 02:46PM

peter4918 wrote: »

I’ll assume you didn’t stop for them because you didn’t have any of the documents you mentioned. It’s not what you want to hear now but drivers like you don’t deserve to be on the road.

Whatever about everything else, How did you think it was a good idea to drive with no insurance? Reckless towards yourself and other road users and in my opinion you do deserve some sort of a ban.

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coylemj · 20-07-2018 03:31PM

OP, for failing to stop and no insurance you will be hammered with large fines. Smaller fines for no tax, NCT and no accompanying driver. Expect lots of points and a disqualification.

It will probably take 4 months or so to come to court. The instant you get the summons, you need to be talking to a solicitor, preferably one who regularly appears before the local traffic court. Don't even think of going to court without a solicitor for that portfolio of offences.

The aftermath of this incident will be painful because with a conviction for driving with no insurance and your age and your lack of a full licence, you will have a huge problem getting insurance. That's after you come out of the disqualification which I expect you will get, especially when your offences include turning away from a checkpoint. I assume you did a u-turn and got intercepted, if you barrelled through the checkpoint and the cops had to jump out of your way, you could be looking at jail time.

Stanford · 20-07-2018 03:36PM

coylemj wrote: »

OP, for failing to stop and no insurance you will be hammered with large fines. Smaller fines for no tax, NCT and no accompanying driver. Expect lots of points and a disqualification.

It will probably take 4 months or so to come to court. The instant you get the summons, you need to be talking to a solicitor, preferably one who regularly appears before the local traffic court. Don't even think of going to court without a solicitor for that portfolio of offences.

The aftermath of this incident will be painful because with a conviction for driving with no insurance and your age and your lack of a full licence, you will have a huge problem getting insurance. That's after you come out of the disqualification which I expect you will get, especially when your offences include turning away from a checkpoint. I assume you did a u-turn and got intercepted, if you barrelled through the checkpoint and the cops had to jump out of your way, you could be looking at jail time.

I assume OP was asked to stop and failed, otherwise its not illegal to avoid a checkpoint ahead, a moot point however given the other alleged offences

coylemj · 20-07-2018 04:37PM

Stanford wrote: »

I assume OP was asked to stop and failed, otherwise its not illegal to avoid a checkpoint ahead, a moot point however given the other alleged offences

OP said 'I was done for failing to stop' but whatever he did in attempting to avoid the checkpoint, I'm guessing that the prosecuting Garda will find some way to mention it to the judge in which case it may as well be a separate offence.

John_Rambo · 20-07-2018 08:14PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Mod:

Legal discussion only please.

We have an influx of troll(s) into this forum with dramatic tales of their outlaw lifestyles and their running-through-the-raindrops styles of derring-do. People always seem to rise to the bait and call them out. We don't want that here.

We also have people who post about possibly genuine issues but other posters think that they can talk down to such posters and moralize to them. We don't want that here either.

This forum is for legal discussion, not moral lectures to one-off accounts, who have been registered for only half an hour.

Therefore, please keep discussion to legal discussion only and please do not reply to this message.

Note taken, not a bravado, law evading story, but... A relative of mine had his NCT, Insurance, & tax discs robbed from his open top car. He didn't notice as he had the old discs stacked behind the new ones. It was noticed by a vigilant Garda at a checkpoint, but there wasn't a problem, he just had to produce the certs at his local Garda station within ten days and apply for new discs.

So, if you were actually insured, NCT'd and taxed, but not displaying there might be a softer outcome.

If you weren't insured, taxed or NCT'd you're most likely the the architect of a disastrous start in motoring life. Trying not to moralise here.

Pat Mustard · 20-07-2018 08:20PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

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Legal discussion only please.

We have an influx of troll(s) into this forum with dramatic tales of their outlaw lifestyles and their running-through-the-raindrops styles of derring-do. People always seem to rise to the bait and call them out. We don't want that here.

We also have people who post about possibly genuine issues but other posters think that they can talk down to such posters and moralize to them. We don't want that here either.

This forum is for legal discussion, not moral lectures to one-off accounts, who have been registered for only half an hour.

Therefore, please keep discussion to legal discussion only and please do not reply to this message.

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pintofguiness · 27-07-2018 09:35AM

coylemj wrote: »

OP, for failing to stop and no insurance you will be hammered with large fines. Smaller fines for no tax, NCT and no accompanying driver. Expect lots of points and a disqualification.

It will probably take 4 months or so to come to court. The instant you get the summons, you need to be talking to a solicitor, preferably one who regularly appears before the local traffic court. Don't even think of going to court without a solicitor for that portfolio of offences.

The aftermath of this incident will be painful because with a conviction for driving with no insurance and your age and your lack of a full licence, you will have a huge problem getting insurance. That's after you come out of the disqualification which I expect you will get, especially when your offences include turning away from a checkpoint. I assume you did a u-turn and got intercepted, if you barrelled through the checkpoint and the cops had to jump out of your way, you could be looking at jail time.

well unfortunately for me i put the foot to the floor and hammered through the checkpoint and unfortunately a guard who was trying to wave me down had to jump for his life as he was close to been struck by the car i was driving. All in all it don't look to good does it for me ):

wardides · 27-07-2018 10:40AM

Can't be real

Skatedude · 27-07-2018 05:47PM

pintofguiness wrote: »

well unfortunately for me i put the foot to the floor and hammered through the checkpoint and unfortunately a guard who was trying to wave me down had to jump for his life as he was close to been struck by the car i was driving. All in all it don't look to good does it for me ):

In that case you could expect jail time, they could easily see it as attempted manslaughter , get yourself a good solicitor NOW.

ED E · 27-07-2018 05:52PM

People who say "just wanting" don't use "struck". This is a wind up.

4ensic15 · 27-07-2018 06:28PM

pintofguiness wrote: »

well unfortunately for me i put the foot to the floor and hammered through the checkpoint and unfortunately a guard who was trying to wave me down had to jump for his life as he was close to been struck by the car i was driving. All in all it don't look to good does it for me ):

How did they catch you then?

5rtytry56 · 27-07-2018 06:42PM

Skatedude wrote: »

In that case you could expect jail time, they could easily see it as attempted manslaughter.

of a GARDA

Under His Eye · 27-07-2018 06:43PM

Wind-up thread of the year so far!

jim salter · 27-07-2018 10:43PM

37.2 years

coylemj · 28-07-2018 11:41AM

Skatedude wrote: »

In that case you could expect jail time, they could easily see it as attempted manslaughter , get yourself a good solicitor NOW.

There's no such crime as attempted manslaughter. If you attempt to kill someone, it's attempted murder. If you kill someone through an act of gross negligence or recklessness, it could be manslaughter. In the OP's case where he drove his car through a checkpoint and the cop had to jump out of the way, it would be assault on a Garda plus dangerous driving.

Throw in no insurance and the other stuff and he will be very lucky to avoid jail.

nuac · 28-07-2018 12:18PM

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How long will I be disqualified from driving?

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