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How do you cope with commuting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    12 minute drive to work most days, sometimes less than 10 minutes.
    No traffic lights, in fact very little traffic...The benefit of living and working in Cork. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭McCrack


    I walk to my office in less than 5 min

    I can go home for lunch if I want

    Do I win?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    McCrack wrote: »
    I walk to my office in less than 5 min

    I can go home for lunch if I want

    Do I win?

    This used to be me. I hate you :pac:

    It is the absolute best though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steamsey


    rosmoke wrote: »
    I'm actually passioned about cycling that's the thing. I used to cycle 5 days a week for 9 hours a day in work (~80km a day) on mtb, was completely wrecked the 1st couple of weeks, after that I was only tired. Was doing long 150km tracks with friends on a mountain bike, not road bike. Even doing downhill on the weekends in the mountains with a full frame.

    It's hard for me to adjust and say this is ok and normal when I grew up with different weather.

    The weather here for cycle commuting is really not that bad. It does not rain in the morning as much as people would suspect. I rarely need the rain gear on the bike - but I always have it with me. Based in Dublin.

    I'm doing 12km each way at the moment and as much as I'd love a motorbike or electric bike, I do enjoy the cycle. Tried the bus, tried driving - both terrible options IMO - I'd rather walk or run, anything other than the bus or traffic. And that's not even mentioning the price of the bus or using a car every day.

    Bus, including 15 min walk to / from bus stop, and waiting for bus takes 2 hours each way. 4 hours a day!! That doesn't include missing a bus if it's full. On the bike takes me 35 mins each way. Stick on a podcast and I'm there before I know it. Add 10 mins to change when I get to work. So 1 hour and 20 mins a day door to door commuting and my exercise is done.

    I have a purpose built commuter so it's light and fast and easy to maintain. If you were commuting on an MTB, if I'm reading that right rosmoke, then no surprise you'd be tired.

    The rain / wind is not the issue for me - it's the lack of respect towards cyclists. But I'm finding that I can get past a lot of that by ignoring the bad behaviour and just getting on with my life. That's not always an option, but if it is, these days I'll take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Fox Hound wrote: »
    Driving a motor cycle on the M50/N11 in the morning is a death Trap in this country!! some bad Drivers on the motorway who never even see you guys in the morning,

    Is it that bad? Might end up doing this in the future and hadn't really considered it as dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    30 min walk max to and from work most days! Drive one day a week and can taken longer than the walk depending on how crap traffic is!
    Can bus it in about 20 mins if it's lashing!

    I used to work in Ballymount, horrendous 15km drive, just traffic at all angles! Previous to that it was a 2 hour daily commute on a Luas out to Citywest, going against the crowds most of the time so wasn't too bad but finishing at 6.30pm odd weeks you could be waiting a wait for a Luas home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭daheff


    rosmoke wrote: »
    I'm trying to understand how people cope with commutes as the title suggests.
    We live in Citywest, takes me 1h25min to get to Harcourt Luas Stop with Luas, wife workes in city centre as well, takes her 1h30min. (including walking)

    So 3h commute + 8h30min at work means at least 11h and 30 minutes only for work. Of course, you need a shower, shopping, cooking, cleaning and that's the day ... even without kids.

    And we live in Dublin, we were thinking of buying a house near Dublin , but it's ridiculous, I might as well just emigrate at this point.

    What's the point of having a life/wife/kids/house if you see them only on weekends?

    your commute is bad because you live too far for the luas to get you anywhere in a reasonable time.

    try moving to a different house or job that works better for you. - and i appreciate its an easy suggestion to make.

    train from maynooth to connolly is approx 45mins every day. Train from Balbriggan to connolly is approx 45-50 mins

    Pearse st is another 15 mins. Walk from pearse st to harcourt st and it'll still be quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Audiobooks and Podcasts.

    Don't think I could listen to an Irish radio station for a prolonged period before purposely driving head first into an oncoming HGV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I cycle about 10 mins to station. I used to walk, no problem on way in but the thought of a 2 min walk after train and a long day just depressed me.

    So I have a 10 min cycle to station and then about a 50 min train journey (With transfer at Connolly).

    Kindle and noise-cancelling headphones are your friend. I don't think I could do that bus journey though. As bad as trains can be, they are infinitely better than busses.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,190 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I changed jobs recently and cut a 10 minute commute down to 5 minutes. I was asked to consider another job 40 minutes away for €10k more and I turned it down. I just couldn't see myself wasting close to 7 hours a week commuting.

    Plus I'm able to come home every day at lunchtime :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steamsey


    As bad as trains can be, they are infinitely better than busses.

    Completely agree. I'm not a fan of buses. The only way to make buses really work is to make them basically trains on wheels - no driver to talk to, no change, tag on at the stop. They did it in Bogota a long time ago now and it worked - they didn't have the money for a subway so this was the next best option. Our current system is a outdated - how hard would it be to cancel all interaction with the driver and just go tag on only? Would move things along much quicker. I believe they'll go this route, but I'll still be avoiding the bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    steamsey wrote: »
    Completely agree. I'm not a fan of buses. The only way to make buses really work is to make them basically trains on wheels - no driver to talk to, no change, tag on at the stop. They did it in Bogota a long time ago now and it worked - they didn't have the money for a subway so this was the next best option. Our current system is a outdated - how hard would it be to cancel all interaction with the driver and just go tag on only? Would move things along much quicker. I believe they'll go this route, but I'll still be avoiding the bus.

    That’s busconnects that’s currently in planning. Local politicians are trying to sink it in exchange for votes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,833 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Dublin really lacks a rapid form of transportation throughout the city (stating the obvious here). A lot of other cities have mass transport like Undergrounds that move a lot of people around very quickly as they don't compete with road traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    road_high wrote: »
    Dublin really lacks a rapid form of transportation throughout the city (stating the obvious here). A lot of other cities have mass transport like Undergrounds that move a lot of people around very quickly as they don't compete with road traffic.

    That’s Metrolink that’s in planning.
    We are miles behind other countries but the NTA are trying to address it but the political will is too weak as we don’t make these things election issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Doing a 100Km roundtrip for 25 years now. It's on country roads so not too bad, no public transport a car is a must. I actually enjoy not living anywhere near where I work plus electing to commute meant we could build our house cheaply at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Needles73


    Sure have around 7 kids and have herself bring them to the local Garda station...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    rosmoke wrote: »
    I'm trying to understand how people cope with commutes as the title suggests.
    We live in Citywest, takes me 1h25min to get to Harcourt Luas Stop with Luas, wife workes in city centre as well, takes her 1h30min. (including walking)

    So 3h commute + 8h30min at work means at least 11h and 30 minutes only for work. Of course, you need a shower, shopping, cooking, cleaning and that's the day ... even without kids.

    You'd cycle it in about half that time, and you'll be fit as a fiddle - not trying to fit in time for the gym early morning or late evening.

    https://goo.gl/maps/PYLyUgmWJj32

    If the distance is too much, you could get an ebike for a bit of extra stamina when you need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    30km each way. By car. Takes about 30 mins when no schools. Could be anything up to an hour during term time. Council put a set of traffic lights in a village a few years ago that cause havoc. Makes no sense. Actually thinking of moving closer to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    We moved to the States in '09. Since then, I have commuted @ 375,000 km.

    I did the math a few years ago and at that point I was spending 28 days per year in my car.

    I've recently changed jobs and cut 60km off of my daily drive. I can still spend four hours per day in my commute.

    So the question that the OP asked was "How do you cope with commuting?"

    Music and podcasts.

    I had a year and a half of free satellite radio that gave me a few options from terrestrial radio. It was a change from terrestrial radio in that time.

    Podcasts have been a lifesaver. I'm a big fan of anything GUITAR based. I've been fortunate enough to follow a few different podcasts that have made my crawls more bearable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    OP, what line of work are you in? Could you possibly remote work a few days a week, or look for another role closer to home or at least offering work from home days?

    Tbh 1hr 30 mins is tough and not really worth it long term.

    I'm luck enough that I have just a 20 min drive to and from work and I'm in the door home by 5pm sharp each day. I realise that I'm lucky and for any other roles I would probably have to commute into the city or further afield. I wouldn't mind necessarily but I would need the ability to work from home 2/3 days a week to make it worth while. I would struggle to consider anything that didn't offer it. Of course, on the days I work from home it's 10 seconds from bed to the laptop in the other room ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,208 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Fox Hound wrote: »
    Driving a motor cycle on the M50/N11 in the morning is a death Trap in this country!! some bad Drivers on the motorway who never even see you guys in the morning,

    Your right. I'm dead right now.



    Or let me see I've never had an accident on it because I trained properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭henryforde80


    20 hours a week at one stage in the car as could only get a job in Dublin as had no experience. Then 20 minutes walk into work on top of that. Was torturous.

    Now 8 mins in the car and can park in work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭rosmoke


    Needles73 wrote: »
    Sure have around 7 kids and have herself bring them to the local Garda station...

    I'll have to go in prison first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Andy31


    Get an e-bike if you're not up for the wind, hills etc after a tough day. Plus because you're not putting as much effort in you never really need a shower etc when you arrive into work. No matter where you live the traffic is nuts everywhere in Dublin these days. So unless you want to spend stupid money on a (probably) much smaller house closer to the city, it's a great investment. I live in rathfarnham and my commute is a lot quicker (35 mins each way to docklands) now on the bike. I left at 7:40am and drove this morning (I had to for different reasons today) - took me 1 hour 20 mins. And it left me in a very bad humour Will be back on the bike tomorrow and smugly passing out all the traffic again...(PS i know you mentioned it already but...honestly it almost never rains in Dublin - at least not heavily).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Yourmama


    Careful with ebikes. They are much heavier and can legally assist only up to 25kmh. Over 25kmh you are left on your own with extra weight of the motor+battery. This speed is easily achieved on road bike. I don't consider myself superfit and I'm usually averaging 26-28 kmh on road bike and all ebikes are left behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Train. Intercity. Its grand. 1 hour up and 1 hour home. 120miles round trip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭jjpep


    Yourmama wrote: »
    Careful with ebikes. They are much heavier and can legally assist only up to 25kmh. Over 25kmh you are left on your own with extra weight of the motor+battery. This speed is easily achieved on road bike. I don't consider myself superfit and I'm usually averaging 26-28 kmh on road bike and all ebikes are left behind.

    The use for ebikes though isn't speed, its less effort. If speed is the no 1 thing than road bike all the way. If there's no shower facilities, or no desire to achieve the needed fitness to cycle that distance every day than ebikes are a good option.

    On the fitness side though it should be pointed out that one doesn't really need to get that fit for the distances we're talking here. I do a similar commute on a normal bike and I'm at best average in the fitness stakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭troyzer


    I start my day at seven. Half an hour drive in so I can't complain.

    But I'm switching to the bike when my cycle-to-work is approved. It's going to be fairly daunting, the last bike I owned came with stabilisers.

    20km each way. BRING IT ON!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    One of the main issues for you OP is how ridiculously slow the Luas is from City West in to town
    I'd be getting a bike or motorbike, changing jobs or moving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    They are adding too many stops on train services. Slowing it down too much.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    jjpep wrote: »
    The use for ebikes though isn't speed, its less effort. If speed is the no 1 thing than road bike all the way. If there's no shower facilities, or no desire to achieve the needed fitness to cycle that distance every day than ebikes are a good option.

    On the fitness side though it should be pointed out that one doesn't really need to get that fit for the distances we're talking here. I do a similar commute on a normal bike and I'm at best average in the fitness stakes.

    I think the ebike just makes it easier if doing it every day, every week in all weathers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    beauf wrote: »
    They are adding too many stops on train services. Slowing it down too much.

    They have to find a balance. The joy of flexible working is I can use more services and get ones that suit better. My train this morning is non stop from my stop to Dublin. 57 min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭aristotle25


    I have a 25mile commute each way, I find I need to be on the road by 6am which means I get into work before 7am, I can do the 25 miles in 50 mins or so.

    If I leave it later the commute in can be 1.5 hours so I'd rather be up and out early.

    Working from home 1 day a week also helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭angel eyes 2012


    20/25 minutes in car. Dublin 15 to Dublin 7. The bus takes 45 minutes and there are no seats. I've fainted on bus & train before when standing -public transport is not suitable for everyone. I'd be interested in cycling for the benefits but there are no showers in my workplace. Some work colleagues cycle but I don't know where they shower? Maybe it's not essential, I don't know. But I would prefer to have the option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭whippet


    I used to do a 1h45 min each way commute .. the m50 was the problem having to go the full way from the M1 to Ballymount could take an eternity and then throw in the usual breakdowns and accidents .. it became painful.

    I moved out to the northeast to get out of Dublin and was willing to do the commute as my wife works from home. During the recession it was manageable but in the last couple of years it became impossible ... i has a chat with my boss and more or less told him I couldn’t do it any more and needed the option to spend at least a day a week working from home.

    This made a huge difference ... just being there in the morning for the kiddos and having a proper dinner ready for them after school.

    After -2’monthe of one day a week our company did an internal study on how many miles our sales team commuted .. how much time we spent in traffic .. it was staggering. We couldn’t complain about the traffic when we were part of it.

    So now we all have the option to work from wherever we want .. there is still the need to get to the office or customers in Dublin but this is now all off peak times.

    Every meeting has a Skype for business option and productivity has increased.

    It is great for staff retention too ... I’d need a serious offer to even consider a different job ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    My commute is Walkinstown to city centre.

    Running or cycling, about 8k, a lot of it along the canal, either one usually takes about 45 minutes :confused:
    or sometimes the LUAS, 15 minute walk to the stop, 30 minutes in, so also about 45 minutes

    Bus at rush hour - no thanks

    20/25 minutes in car. Dublin 15 to Dublin 7. The bus takes 45 minutes and there are no seats. I've fainted on bus & train before when standing -public transport is not suitable for everyone. I'd be interested in cycling for the benefits but there are no showers in my workplace. Some work colleagues cycle but I don't know where they shower? Maybe it's not essential, I don't know. But I would prefer to have the option.

    I don't shower after a cycle in. I take it fairly easy cycling in, change my top when I get there, spray on deodorant - no shower required.

    If you can borrow a bike, you could try it on a weekend - find a route you'd be happy with, see how long it takes, how hard it is, and if you'd need a shower at the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Try_harder wrote: »
    They have to find a balance. The joy of flexible working is I can use more services and get ones that suit better. My train this morning is non stop from my stop to Dublin. 57 min

    If cycling is quicker, I'm not sure the balance is right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Fuguestate


    During the winter, when schools and colleges mean heavier traffic, door to door takes me about 2 hours each way. So it's the best part of four hours each day. During the summer I can take an hour off that. I'm hoping to qualify as a solicitor, so hopefully when that day eventually arrives I'll be able to find work closer to home. Right now I just need to keep grinding it out.

    In truth though, I don't mind it, at least right now. I don't have kids yet and that seems to be the real killer for people that commute. It must be very difficult. But I'm able to just get on with it. I read a lot, so whatever happens I know I'll always have a couple of hours to myself each day. Anyone that knows me, and knows that I commute, would say that I spend my spare time very well. I don't wish to sound mean-spirited, but the amount of people that tell me they don't know how I commute, when I know that all they do when they get home from work at 17:45 each day is sit in front of the TV for the night. That's my worst nightmare. I'd rather be on the train sitting up straight with a novel in my hand.

    Ultimately I'm a slave to the commute, but I've made it work for me as much as possible. For example it's important to be able to whip up a quick meal when I get home, and that has encouraged me to think carefully about what I eat, and also to prepare a substantial packed lunch, because with such a long evening that's my key meal. And after being in the car/Luas for so long each day, I really need to get some air in my lungs and to stretch my legs. Hail, rain or snow and I'll be out running before bed each night. It would be easy to reach for convenience food during the day and feel like I've earned to lie down for the night when I get home, but I've said no, I'm gonna bend this to my will and make it work.

    Commuting is a bastard, I'm not saying otherwise. Thankfully my partner commutes as well so we've found a rhythm. That will all change if/when kids arrive but we'll cross that road when we get to it. For the moment though I'm taking the hand that I've been dealt and I'm putting a positive spin on it. Years from now, when it's all behind me, I'll look back and complain about how hard it was, but knowing me, and my personality, if I started saying that now I'd give into it completely, and there's too much on the line in terms of career and future to allow to myself to slip into bouts of negativity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    RayCun wrote: »
    ...
    I don't shower after a cycle in. I take it fairly easy cycling in, change my top when I get there, spray on deodorant - no shower required.

    If you can borrow a bike, you could try it on a weekend - find a route you'd be happy with, see how long it takes, how hard it is, and if you'd need a shower at the end.

    Same here. Just change. Cycle slow steady pace. Take it easy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭SteM


    One of the main issues for you OP is how ridiculously slow the Luas is from City West in to town
    I'd be getting a bike or motorbike, changing jobs or moving.

    It's not even the whole journey. Inbound it's decent enough up until James' to be honest. After that it starts hitting traffic and it gets really messy.

    The days that I'm not cycling the whole journey I usually get a DB from the docklands up to James' and then Luas back to Citywest. It's much quicker than getting on a Luas from the docklands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭1hnr79jr65


    162km round trip dundalk to dublin for work 5 days a week, 2-3 hours depending on traffic for round trip.

    Just chill to the tunes on radio and enjoy the ride, been doing this kind of commute for the last 7 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭selous


    180 km round trip, side road then M7, N7 M50 (a 4 county hop) alarm goes off at 4.20am to be in work for 6am, usually a 50-55min trip in morning and return journey starting back at 2.30pm can be 1.5 -2 hours,

    December the last few years has been longer and longer, longest was 3 hours two years ago, and there wasn't even a crash or road works, just traffic. hence I needed to find longer short cuts, (back roads without traffic, so far so good)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭messy tessy


    SteM wrote: »


    As someone who cycles it 3 or 4 times a week I think you're overstating the weather issue to be honest but if you're not into cycling you're not into it.

    Exactly. I have been properly soaked twice this year that I can think of, the weather would not deter me. Now there is the annoyance of pedestrians stepping out in front of you (and an idiot on a scooter yesterday) but really cycling is great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Dark and Long


    260km daily round trip here, ~1hr 20mins each way. It's tough, but I'm used to it now after 9 months, it's certainly not something I can do long term, but for now, it's a good, enjoyable job with great experience which makes it easier to travel in for. I can only see myself doing it for 18-24months though, with 2 wee ones at home its a lot of my time to sacrifice. Also, car expenses are huge, but I've just switched to plug-in hybrid which will hopefully help with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭SteM


    rosmoke wrote: »
    We live in Citywest, takes me 1h25min to get to Harcourt Luas Stop with Luas,
    260km daily round trip here, ~1hr 20mins each way.

    A 30km round trip takes 2hr50min total and a 260km round trip takes 2hr 40min total. Crazy stuff altogether. People saying get a job closer or move closer are sticking their heads in the sand - Dublin is in big trouble unless city centre traffic restrictions are brought in and €€€€€€'s are thrown at public transport improvement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭C3PO


    rosmoke wrote: »
    I used to cycle for a living and I loved it, in a different capital. In here I tried and I can't do it, cycling 30km daily in rain and wind it's just depressing for me.

    I cycle a 30km round trip every day - takes about 1hr20min in total! In reality it doesn't actually rain very often - surprisingly enough! Nothing would persuade me to spend 3 hours a day commuting when I can comfortably do it in half that time with huge health and financial benefits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I cope very well, thank you. It takes me 30 minutes to walk to work. Just enough to plan the work day on the way to work and to unwind after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    +1 for bikes. My wife cycles into the city centre from the outskirts and halves the commute time vs getting the bus.

    Takes care of exercise as well. 2 birds, one stone.

    Otherwise, a moped maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Ive about a 30 minute drive to work that becomes about an hour during the months September to May. To combat it I leave an hour earlier 3 times a week and have the 30 minute drive, and then have an hour in the gym before work. Stops me from getting freaked out in the traffic and morning gym time suits me. The 2 days I dont go early are Wednesday and Friday and morning traffic is generally lighter on a Friday so its fine.

    Home its about 40 minutes year round. Occasionally less or more depending on accidents etc.

    I couldnt do more than an hour each way. I just wouldnt do it.

    I also wouldnt work in Dublin City Centre as I dont live in a place with great public transport and I hate cycling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,406 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Andrewf20 wrote:
    Otherwise, a moped maybe?


    Electric bikes are getting cheap now and are an excellent option for people who j night struggle making the cycle.

    I think half the battle is getting commuters to try cycling. Certainly I used to think it would be impossible in Dublin, but once I tried it, I've never looked back.


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