Do you think RTE phone in’s are fixed

CinemaGuy45 · 08-12-2018 10:53PM #1

No working class Dublin ever seem to win the old man has spent a small fortune over the years.

CinemaGuy45 · 08-12-2018 10:55PM

Ray Darcy show phone call about to happen bet you it is some bog trotter or a posh person.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-12-2018 10:56PM

Not phone in but "Winning Streak" always struck me as an odd one.

Always seems to be mostly people from down the country on it. Given Dublin's population you would imagine the likelihood would be that most contestants would be Dubs most weeks.

Just thought i'd throw that in here.

Badly Drunk Boy · 08-12-2018 10:57PM

I doubt they are fixed, just a rip-off. It's usually a minimum of €2 to enter (depending on method of entry and your phone company) so once they get a certain amount of entries, they're in profit.

CinemaGuy45 · 08-12-2018 10:57PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Not phone in but "Winning Streak" always struck me as an odd one.

Always seems to be mostly people from down the country on it. Given Dublin's population you would imagine the likelihood would be that most contestants would be Dubs most weeks.

Just thought i'd throw that in here.

Yes stands out a mile.

Kevin Finnerty · 08-12-2018 10:58PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Not phone in but "Winning Streak" always struck me as an odd one.

Always seems to be mostly people from down the country on it. Given Dublin's population you would imagine the likelihood would be that most contestants would be Dubs most weeks.

Just thought i'd throw that in here.

The fullstops in the username?

08-12-2018 10:58PM

Tubridy and D'Arcy have been phoning it in for years.

stevek93 · 08-12-2018 11:00PM

What is the general audience of these shows?

CinemaGuy45 · 08-12-2018 11:01PM

stevek93 wrote: »

What is the general audience of these shows?

The nearly walking dead.

antodeco · 08-12-2018 11:01PM

Winning streak apply percentages per county of winning tickets.

Is: There's "100" tickets in the final to be called out. Each county has the same percentage. On one hand, it seems fair, but based on population it's not in the slightest!

Badly Drunk Boy · 08-12-2018 11:04PM

Waterford!!

I turned it on just to see that...

CinemaGuy45 · 08-12-2018 11:04PM

Dungarvan Waterford I was right.

Badly Drunk Boy · 08-12-2018 11:10PM

antodeco wrote: »

Winning streak apply percentages per county of winning tickets.

Is: There's "100" tickets in the final to be called out. Each county has the same percentage. On one hand, it seems fair, but based on population it's not in the slightest!

I presume a significant percentage of the studio audience is for friends and family of the contestants. At that stage, the they've already played and got their 3 stars (or whatever). It's the percentage of the players by location that you should be looking at.

Laois_Man · 08-12-2018 11:23PM

Back in the 1990's when Mike Murphy was presenting winning streak, they brought the show outside Dublin and one episode was recorded (many people seem to think it's live, it isn't) in the place where my mother was working. She was hoping to get a go at the big wheel on set for the craic. But it was taken in at the last second and disappeared just as quick afterwards, all guarded and everything. Definitely something fishy about it!

Poor Uncle Tom · 08-12-2018 11:24PM

Yis are just jellous......

PTH2009 · 08-12-2018 11:25PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Waterford!!

I turned it on just to see that...

hon the deise

Aska · 08-12-2018 11:26PM

antodeco wrote:

Is: There's "100" tickets in the final to be called out. Each county has the same percentage. On one hand, it seems fair, but based on population it's not in the slightest!

I dislike the winning streak format, if you purchase a ticket and hand your 3euro to the NL and receive 3 stars then in my opinion you SHOULD be in the draw, the OH sent in 2 of the cruise stubs last wed and the post lady told her that another lady earlier in the week sent off 16, well if she paid for the postage then all 16 of them should be in it to win, this 100 only is a joke

Atlantic Dawn · 08-12-2018 11:29PM

Is there a KPMGite supervising?

whisky_galore · 08-12-2018 11:31PM

Winning streak can be played by untrained chimps. No challenge whatsoever. That and the usual 'mad' audience make it unwatchable.

topmanamillion · 08-12-2018 11:39PM

Aska wrote: »

I dislike the winning streak format, if you purchase a ticket and hand your 3euro to the NL and receive 3 stars then in my opinion you SHOULD be in the draw, the OH sent in 2 of the cruise stubs last wed and the post lady told her that another lady earlier in the week sent off 16, well if she paid for the postage then all 16 of them should be in it to win, this 100 only is a joke

I have no problem with this. Once you send in the ticket you are in the draw the same as everyone else, albeit a pre draw. It's not practical to have 1000s of tickets in a drum and I'd imagine the odds of your wife having her name pulled out of that drum would be similar anyway.

twowheelsonly · 08-12-2018 11:42PM

Aska wrote: »

I dislike the winning streak format, if you purchase a ticket and hand your 3euro to the NL and receive 3 stars then in my opinion you SHOULD be in the draw, the OH sent in 2 of the cruise stubs last wed and the post lady told her that another lady earlier in the week sent off 16, well if she paid for the postage then all 16 of them should be in it to win, this 100 only is a joke

AFAIK all tickets are entered in the original draw earlier on to whittle it down to the last 100 for the '''''live'''' draw.
I remember at one stage they had a massive box (more like a huge trolley) with all the tickets for some big draw or other and people were complaining that their ticket could be on the bottom and they'd have no chance of being drawn out !! They'll never keep everyone happy.

RabbleRouser2k · 08-12-2018 11:44PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Ray Darcy show phone call about to happen bet you it is some bog trotter or a posh person.

'Bog Trotter'? 'Posh Person'?

Ya seem to have a chip on your shoulder, there. It's a wide berth to generalise so many.

NSAman · 08-12-2018 11:44PM

twowheelsonly wrote: »

AFAIK all tickets are entered in the original draw earlier on to whittle it down to the last 100 for the '''''live'''' draw.
I remember at one stage they had a massive box (more like a huge trolley) with all the tickets for some big draw or other and people were complaining that their ticket could be on the bottom and they'd have no chance of being drawn out !! They'll never keep everyone happy.

Optics my dear person.. it doesn't look good.

tuxy · 08-12-2018 11:47PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

'Bog Trotter'? 'Posh Person'?

By bog trotter he just means someone from a small community that has made the effort and gone out and seen the world.

And by posh person he just means polite and well spoken.

MrMusician18 · 08-12-2018 11:49PM

There are a lot of myths out there on how the winning streak draw operates. You think lottery world have published the methods they use, in the interest of fairness.

I somehow doubt they apply a county quota like suggested above, as that wouldn't be fair.

dxhound2005 · 08-12-2018 11:53PM

Say there were 10,000 tickets this week, and 40% of them were sent from Dublin. Then out of the 100 it would be reasonable to expect somewhere between 30 and 50 being from Dublin. But if you then select only 5 from the 100, it would be very possible that no Dublin ticket would come out.

RabbleRouser2k · 08-12-2018 11:58PM

You could argue that Dublin people are less likely to enter-I know there was discussion about that before, that on shows like Strictly (Or the Voice, or the All-Ireland Talent s**t-I mean show) anyone from Dublin were guaranteed not to win because folks from Dublin don't call in.

I doubt it tho-even if only ten percent bought tickets, from all counties, that would still put Dublin ahead.

CinemaGuy45 · 09-12-2018 12:14AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

'Bog Trotter'? 'Posh Person'?

Ya seem to have a chip on your shoulder, there. It's a wide berth to generalise so many.

That is called a sense of humour;).

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:21AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Winning streak can be played by untrained chimps. No challenge whatsoever. That and the usual 'mad' audience make it unwatchable.

That's what the law requires - it has to be a game of chance, not of skill.

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:22AM

Laois_Man wrote: »

Back in the 1990's when Mike Murphy was presenting winning streak, they brought the show outside Dublin and one episode was recorded (many people seem to think it's live, it isn't) in the place where my mother was working. She was hoping to get a go at the big wheel on set for the craic. But it was taken in at the last second and disappeared just as quick afterwards, all guarded and everything. Definitely something fishy about it!

Sounds like they were protecting it from interference and tampering - the very opposite of fishy

whisky_galore · 09-12-2018 12:26AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

That's what the law requires - it has to be a game of chance, not of skill.

If the law supposes that, the law is an ass.

Homer · 09-12-2018 12:27AM

Phone in competitions are like the lotto/scratch cards.. they are a tax on the poor and the stupid. If you can’t figure out that they are creaming in the money and your odds of winning are minuscule then leave them at it.

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:34AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

If the law supposes that, the law is an ass.

Why? It's a game of chance, like the lotto or any raffle.

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:35AM

Homer wrote: »

Phone in competitions are like the lotto/scratch cards.. they are a tax on the poor and the stupid. If you can’t figure out that they are creaming in the money and your odds of winning are minuscule then leave them at it.

Maybe they have figured all that out, and they still decide to go ahead and play, for their own reasons.

twowheelsonly · 09-12-2018 01:19AM

Homer wrote: »

Phone in competitions are like the lotto/scratch cards.. they are a tax on the poor and the stupid. If you can’t figure out that they are creaming in the money and your odds of winning are minuscule then leave them at it.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe they have figured all that out, and they still decide to go ahead and play, for their own reasons.

One 'poor' person is 6 million quid richer tonight because of his stupidity in paying that damn lotto 'tax'.

That 'poor stupid person' goes on to join in excess of 1500 other lotto millionaires. Add in the knock on effect to families etc and a lot of people don't find it too stupid. Thousands more have benefitted from the smaller prizes and the Plus 1 and Plus 2 draws as well.

Over 5 Billion has been contributed to various causes during it's existence also so all told it's not too bad.

(Sorry for going off-topic BTW.... the lotto haters annoy me with their oh so original 'tax on fools' jibes every time the lotto is mentioned..)

LirW · 09-12-2018 10:39AM

Nothing to do with fixing but I'm always wondering that every person ever calling for one of the games at 2FM in the morning, they all have a job, are students or on maternity leave. I've never heard anyone there who's unemployed.
I thought half of the country are lazy spongers doing absolutely nothing?!

dxhound2005 · 09-12-2018 10:46AM

LirW wrote: »

Nothing to do with fixing but I'm always wondering that every person ever calling for one of the games at 2FM in the morning, they all have a job, are students or on maternity leave. I've never heard anyone there who's unemployed.
I thought half of the country are lazy spongers doing absolutely nothing?!

They're the students.

antodeco · 09-12-2018 10:48AM

Just to clarify, i picked 100 as a sample number. An ex colleague of mine was involved in the selection. She told me that each county had its own separate pile. Then they would take the equal percentage from each pile. So example, each county is allowed "10" entrants. 10 are picked from each pile in a "predraw".

So whilst everyone has the same percentage chance in the final, Dublin entrants of being picked for the final is alot lower due to the volume in the Dublin pile.

She always entered using her mother's Offaly (or Cavan) address, as you had a greater chance of being selected in the predraw

joebloggs32 · 09-12-2018 10:56AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

If the law supposes that, the law is an ass.

Look up the definition of a lottery and come back when you are finished.
It may be on TV but it is not a game show. It's a National Lottery game.

spurious · 09-12-2018 10:59AM

tuxy wrote: »

By bog trotter he just means someone from a small community that has made the effort and gone out and seen the world.

And by posh person he just means polite and well spoken.

I think the bog trotters are the ones that didn't leave.

Anyhooo.....I have had my suspicions about the Lotto itself since early on when someone filled in tickets as if they had known the first 5 numbers and were just searching for the last one.
The explanation/excuse for such extraordinary good luck was that they had a relative a Maths lecturer.
Hmmm.

The spot the ball in the Sunday Indo or Press or whichever one had it was definitely fixed. We had neighbours who had relatives that worked for them and had a number of 'wins'. I'm not sure they ever got the prizes though.

Oasis1974 · 09-12-2018 12:16PM

Bunny Carr was jailed in connection with stealing mental patient collection moment and he had the brass balls to answer those ringin things. Chancer.....

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:26PM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Bunny Carr was jailed in connection with stealing mental patient collection moment and he had the brass balls to answer those ringin things. Chancer.....

He was never jailed. There were rumours, which he addressed here;

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/mr-charm-school-1.85444

Oasis1974 · 09-12-2018 12:35PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

He was never jailed. There were rumours, which he addressed here;

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/mr-charm-school-1.85444

Exactly he went on the radio and no one phoned it was fixed. Bunny tampered with the phones hence no one called. Brass balls of bunny ....

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:40PM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Exactly he went on the radio and no one phoned it was fixed. Bunny tampered with the phones hence no one called. Brass balls of bunny ....

I thought you said he was jailed?

Oasis1974 · 09-12-2018 12:43PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I thought you said he was jailed?

Where did you think that money went it can buy anything including freedom ......

AndrewJRenko · 09-12-2018 12:48PM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Where did you think that money went it can buy anything including freedom ......

So are you still claiming that he was jailed?

Do you think RTE phone in’s are fixed

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