Green Party activists told don’t use 'big words' when talking to rural voters

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

She said it herself, they used words like climate change and biodiversity in rural areas instead of using words like hedges and sparrows and heat. Those big words should only be used with people that understand them, I assume...

Don't fear Buford, I think I have some of these big words sussed. I'll share my learning with you.

Biodiversity - weeds
Recyclable - can be fcked into the green bin
Compostable - can be fcked out into the field.
Energy efficient - shopping around for the best deals on diesel and coal.

If I learn more fancy words I'll let ya know

Main thread here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058118633

I was on the Green Party website there looking at the environmental protection area. Lots of nice ideals working with farmers to improve biodiversity and environmental protection, banning pesticides, single use plastics etc etc. Nothing I don't agree with in a perfect world.

A few realities need to be stated with regard to food production here and elsewhere in the world.

The only reason there is agriculture on this planet is to feed people. You grow crops to go directly to consumers or to animals which eventually end up in the gob of the consumer. This is the way it is. There's no magic tablet anyone can take to keep themselves full. With that in mind land needs to be farmed at the expense unfortunately of our local wildlife populations. There's no getting around this, when you put something in your mouth as food it was produced at the expense of biodiversity. So you by putting that piece of fruit, veg or meat in your gob has contributed to the loss of biodiversity. Same way when you mow your lawn or decide to purchase a new house or get your garden all decked or complain that the briars are sticking out on your cycle path and the council sends out a hedge cutter to resolve your complain. All of it results in a loss of biodiversity. All human activity results in the loss of biodiversity. Picking out farmers is easy as it means you can easily blame the bogey man / or woman farmer and excuse everything else that you do that contributes to biodiversity loss. That new greenway that you applaud has resulted in biodiversity loss and disturbance of nature.

That lady, Roisin whatever her name is.. I looked on her twitter account and one of her tweets was about organising an event which including seed bombing... this is ridiculous... does she know what seeds were in these bombs ? where did they come from... all that's required is that the ground is left and not cut every bloody 2 weeks... ridiculous pie in the sky oh look at me I'm flinging seed bombs in the name of biodiversity... f off.

I saw a recent article about the invasive oak moth species been discovered on Oak trees that were planted by a council as part of their "biodiversity" program. These trees came from Holland. Why did they not get native Irish oak trees provided by Irish producers ? What are the greens doing about if I want to purchase 200 trees from Choilte and look at their catalogue… which I have.. there are European hawthorn trees instead of Irish hawthorn tress ? The greens were lauding the extensive planting along new roads of trees. I look at the hawthorn trees in spring and the flower about 3 weeks before native Irish ones... Again carbon foot print and the risks of another disease that is currently wiping out our native Ash trees.... ignored as fck the Irish producer.

They want a reduction in dairy herds and less cattle... this is a good one... lets reduce the agricultural production area of this country and plant more trees. Lets look at that for a moment. Friend of mine is currently producing a little under 1000 acres of vegetables of various types for supply to supermarkets. Some of machinery involved in doing this would cost more than the average suburban home. He's up to his eyeballs all the time, gets paid very small margins for his produce which is why he has so much under production. His father had 40 / 50 acres growing more or less the same vegetables and put all his kids through school... yet his son has to upscale to a huge area so he can put his kids through school after what's left paying workers and machinery bills.... Do you not think there is something wrong in that ? What have or will the Greens do about that ? Nothing.... it would mean people would have to pay more for their food and that would not be popular. Farmers are not even on the bottom rung of the ladder and everyone just keeps on kicking them in the head while they are flat on the ground just breaking even as far as I can see.

People need to look at their own contributions to Biodiversity loss / Climate change etc... Remember - Agriculture only exists to feed people... I don't even know why most farmers bother anymore.... easy for someone sitting in an office munching on their blueberries that got flown in from South America and posting bull**** on social media whinging about the stupid dumb cnt farmers... Or going into the supermarkets and paying sweet **** all for produce that has a lot of hard work behind it.

As far as I can see... and you can check out the Nature on the Farm thread... the only people that give a f about wildlife and do practical things to help out things is farmers and some wildlife enthusiasts .. Most of the country wouldn't know a buzzard from a sparrow hawk... yet they find it ok to lecture people who see these things everyday from the comfort of offices in Dublin or wherever they are...

Farmers are currently on the ground, as far as I'm concerned the Green Party just want to give them a kick in the head instead of helping them up or walking away. There is nothing I can see that the Green Party are doing to address proper pricing for food producers so they are not squeezing every inch of ground to make a reasonable living, acknowledging the fact that farmers are more bloody aware of biodiversity then most and not treating people as thick cnts cause they assume we are all bloody muck savages who know nothing other than turning a key in a tractor or what time the milk lorry is coming in at.

/Rant over

And to Leroy, this is not a rant against you personally. At least you posted in here and tried to explain your point of view.