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Provincial Past

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Great photo Csalem, loved the KC's. KC141 was a route 2 (202 today) car and was definitely in service in 1999, the Advance Pitstop mega rear is how i remember it. KC133 was originally a route 10 car (the route now defunct and split between the 215 & 216) but later turned up anywhere and was not liked by some drivers, one of them went as far as to brand it a heap one night when informed they would be taking it over as it was spare, the driver ended up with KC5 in Guinness AOA instead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭cml387


    In fairness those Bombardier buses, single or double decker, were hideously ugly.

    And knowing some people who worked in the plant in Shannon at the time, the management and engineering left something to be desired as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    cml387 wrote: »
    In fairness those Bombardier buses, single or double decker, were hideously ugly.

    And knowing some people who worked in the plant in Shannon at the time, the management and engineering left something to be desired as well.

    You either loved of loathed them. 2 things that stand out with these buses, when Albert Reynolds launched them and one kept breaking down, i think it was KE2, and the run away fire tender leaving brand new KC124 a write off before it ever left the factory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭testarossa40


    cml387 wrote: »
    In fairness those Bombardier buses, single or double decker, were hideously ugly.
    Not fair at all. They were handsome and remarkably modern-looking - space-age, even - for their day. At least those that were properly kept & maintained during service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Not fair at all. They were handsome and remarkably modern-looking - space-age, even - for their day. At least those that were properly kept & maintained during service.

    The sound from them was unique. Not forgetting they were of an integral design


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭cml387


    The sound from them was unique. Not forgetting they were of an integral design

    I must have been on one of the very first, a trip from Athlone to Roscrea on the Interlink system that allowed me to get from Mullingar to Limerick without going to Dublin. I think it was very new because the staff in the then new bus garage in Athlone (across from current railway station) were examining it all over.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,680 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    cml387 wrote: »
    In fairness those Bombardier buses, single or double decker, were hideously ugly.

    And knowing some people who worked in the plant in Shannon at the time, the management and engineering left something to be desired as well.

    Whatever about the engineering, looks wise they were perfectly fine. Look at some of the UK stuff at the time - that was ugly! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1983 sees M 200 parked in the bus station in Cork This bus was one of 213 Leyland Leopards delivered to CIE between 1971 and 1973. Specifically, this bus was in the final twenty built specifically for CIE Tours. This batch had larger windscreens than the rest. M 200 was delivered new in 1972 and re-engined to become MD 200 in 1982. It became a school bus in 1991 (MDS 200) and was withdrawn in 1999. In the mid-1980s it was repainted into the same tour livery as the KE Class but it ended its days in Bus Eireann livery. 04/01/1983

    50799739398_7b188458e4_c.jpgProvincial Past (48) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1998 sees KR 158 at the bus station in Drogheda. Part of the bus station is fenced off while work is taking place on modernising the building and station layout.
    KR 158 was delivered new to CIE in 1985 and was withdrawn in the early-2000s. The bus is seen branded above the side windows for Brú Na Bóinne, the name of the Newgrange complex located west from Drogheda along the River Boyne. A new visitor centre opened there in 1997 and Bus Eireann ran some shuttle services from Drogheda to it. A PL bus also received this branding for the service, but today it is just the nondescript route 163 that serves Newgrange from Drogheda. The current bus does not have a multi-lingual welcome sign in the front window either, unlike KR 158.
    17/01/1998

    50825598526_bcb8d285a7_c.jpgProvincial Past (49) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1986 sees C 170 parked at Longford Garage. This bus was delivered new to CIE in 1966. In early 1986 it became a school bus and was withdrawn by Bus Eireann in 1996. 23/01/1986

    50849789671_aede3486c8_c.jpgProvincial Past (50) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    This pic was posted before on boards, but perhaps not on this forum. Greystones 1964
    https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/catw/id/1118/rec/15


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1994 sees LA 2 parked up between school duties in Trimblestown. The bus was delivered new to Ulsterbus (as 1918) in 1975. It was sold to Bus Eireann in 1990 when the company needed some buses for school duties. It was withdrawn towards the end of 2001 and sold for scrap in 2002. 27/01/1994

    50874155403_7c57b2c25d_c.jpgProvincial Past (51) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Csalem wrote: »
    1994 sees LA 2 parked up between school duties in Trimblestown. The bus was delivered new to Ulsterbus (as 1918) in 1975. It was sold to Bus Eireann in 1990 when the company needed some buses for school duties. It was withdrawn towards the end of 2001 and sold for scrap in 2002. 27/01/1994

    50874155403_7c57b2c25d_c.jpgProvincial Past (51) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Amazing to see 26 years on the road....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Csalem wrote: »
    1994 sees LA 2 parked up between school duties in Trimblestown. The bus was delivered new to Ulsterbus (as 1918) in 1975. It was sold to Bus Eireann in 1990 when the company needed some buses for school duties. It was withdrawn towards the end of 2001 and sold for scrap in 2002. 27/01/1994

    50874155403_7c57b2c25d_c.jpgProvincial Past (51) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    I heard that the ones which were in Kells Transport Museum made it back across the border in the last year or two. Not sure how many but definitely some


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1995 sees Bus Eireann KR 150 parked between duties in Letterkenny. This bus was delivered new in 1985 and was based in Stranorlar for all its public service career. In the early 2000s it became a school bus and moved to Longford Garage. 07/02/1995

    50898947342_70267737c8_c.jpgProvincial Past (52) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭91wx763


    Csalem wrote: »
    1995 sees Bus Eireann KR 150 parked between duties in Letterkenny. This bus was delivered new in 1985 and was based in Stranorlar for all its public service career. In the early 2000s it became a school bus and moved to Longford Garage. 07/02/1995

    50898947342_70267737c8_c.jpgProvincial Past (52) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    I always liked those type of destination blinds. To get to a KC or KR they probably came from a C and an E beforehand. KC 174 in Waterford had an all irish blind for it's whole working life, rarely ever changing from SLIABH CAOL/PAIRC EÓIN, it nearly ripped when someone tried to turn the handles !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1983 sees CIE KE 7 in Killarney with an Expressway service to Cork. This bus was delivered new to CIE in 1981. It was later modified to become part of the tour fleet and was withdrawn around 1996. 08/02/1983

    50922344003_fe4b28f3e3_c.jpgProvincial Past (53) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1997 sees VC 29 in Limerick with a service on route 12. The bus is painted in the special Super Coach livery for certain services on this route that were introduced in 1996. The bus had a toilet onboard, and an onboard host provided refreshments. This upgraded service only lasted a few years before the 12 was absorbed back into the standard Expressway network. The route fully ceased operating on the 29th January 2021.
    VC 29 was delivered new in 1996. The Volvo Caetano bus ended its career as a school bus in Cavan and was withdrawn around 2016. 20/02/1997

    50946323758_dbcf5565a6_c.jpgProvincial Past (54) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1986 sees KR 64 and SS 348 parked between duties in Stranorlar, County Donegal. KR 64 was delivered new to CIE in 1985 and spent its career operating out of Stranorlar. It ended its days in the early 2000s as a school bus. SS 348 was delivered new, as a school bus, to CIE in 1969. It was withdrawn by Bus Eireann in 1989. 26/02/1986

    50970223071_89e0608202_c.jpgProvincial Past (55) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Remember seeing them yellow white ones, think it was Longford and they were left to rot beside the tracks, use to be on the Sligo line a lot as a kid.
    They looked like horrible places to be.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭cml387


    Remember seeing them yellow white ones, think it was Longford and they were left to rot beside the tracks, use to be on the Sligo line a lot as a kid.
    They looked like horrible places to be.

    Bear in mind the commitment to education being demonstrated by the government in the sixties and seventies to buy these buses and employ drivers. At one stage the school transport scheme cost more than the total cost of teacher's pay.

    They were ok to travel in. A bit rattley and very spartan inside. But bought new, and a lot better than the secondhand ones bought much later (from Singapore I believe).


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,987 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    why would they buy second hand buses from singapore? seems a long way to go to by second hand buses.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    why would they buy second hand buses from singapore? seems a long way to go to by second hand buses.

    Because they are right hand drive I'd imagine. Wrights and ADL build many buses for Hong Kong and Singapore in Ballymena and in Britain so it's not unheard of to send buses for export long distances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭john boye


    why would they buy second hand buses from singapore? seems a long way to go to by second hand buses.

    BE must have got them for buttons as many of them needed extensive mods, heating systems had to be put into them amongst other things. They were very basic and some of them never even made it into service here. The ones that did were rough and ready but solid enough I believe

    Many of the atlanteans withdrawn around then donated their seat frames and cushions to them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1989 sees Bus Eireann KR 198 parked between duties at Limerick Bus Station. The bus is in an all-over ad / special livery for Aer Lingus to highlight its allocation to the Limerick to Shannon Airport route. Buses on airport shuttles in Dublin and Cork received similar liveries.
    KR 198 was delivered new to CIE in 1986, having being built by GAC at its Shannon factory. Around 2000 it joined the schools fleet in Limerick and was withdrawn after 2004. 04/03/1989

    50993737696_4a89789042_c.jpgProvincial Past (56) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1985 sees C 205 at Limerick bus / railway station. The bus was delivered new to CIE in 1966. Initially based in Broadstone in Dublin, it moved to Limerick in 1972. In 1986 it moved to Thurles after becoming a school bus. It was withdrawn in 1995.
    The bus has a variety of destinations on display - Ennis, Galway and Rathluirc. Rathluirc became Charleville in 1989 following a plebiscite of the residents. If all three destinations are correct, the bus could be on the equivalent of present-day Expressway route 51 from Cork to Galway.
    08/03/1985

    51015975118_f6497bedc0_c.jpgProvincial Past (57) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭cml387


    A bit unlikely that a C class would be on an expressway route at that time I would have thought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1998 sees SS 783 parked at Drogheda station. This school bus was delivered new to CIE in 1979. It had a Bedford chassis and a body by VanHool McArdle. Like most school buses it was initially painted in a yellow and white livery, but Bus Eireann repainted it into the standard red and white livery after 1987. The bus was withdrawn around 2000. 17/03/1998

    51039551238_07639dbc6e_c.jpgProvincial Past (58) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1989 sees M 142 parked at Drogheda Bus Station. This bus was delivered new to CIE in 1972 and was withdrawn in 1997. The bus received a DAF engine in 1980, and became MD 142. The bus is in Expressway livery, whereas the M beside it is in standard Bus Eireann livery. 26/03/1989

    51062664783_65958e487a_c.jpgProvincial Past (59) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1993 sees KD 185 on St. Patrick Street in Cork with a service on route 8 to Lotabeg. This bus was delivered new to CIE in June 1982 and was withdrawn at some point after 1995. Route 8 is now the 208 and runs from Ashmount to Curraheen Road. 03/04/1993

    51081970746_de74ae99b2_c.jpgProvincial Past (60) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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