Legacy Motorway accessories - repurpose/remove?

"Wrong Way - Turn Back" signs in Irish. Pointless.

Certainly not. If I had my way all signs would be in Irish only.

Thats a shocker of a thing as its just before the junction. When it opened, it was very easy to head into the layby at 120kmh instead of off at the junction.

The old "no online motorway services" signs always came in pairs, one in Irish, one in English, anywhere I came across them. The new signs listing online services are in both languages, which is much neater than two separate signs.

For the others, can we restrict complaints about signs with words on them in languages other than Her Britannic Majesty's chosen tongue to the designated thread?

Editing to say yes yes yes. In most other countries there is nothing more than a sign saying the equivalent of "Motorway Entrance". The hulking signs telling us not to bring horse-pulled carriages onto the motorway are an eyesore. Everyone knows tractors and mopeds are not allowed, so just replace the big signs with smaller ones saying "Motorway Restrictions Begin" or something to that effect.

Fair point. They should probably be banned outright or a more sensible minimum speed chosen, such as 80. To be honest, outside the M50 anything on the motorway below 100 is a hazard.

HGV's can only do 90kph and if B licence vehicle is towing a trailer it can only do 80kph.

If you can't spot a vehicle travelling slower than you on a motorway it's not the lack of speed that's the hazard.

What's the minimum speed limit on motorways then?

So how do you enforce a minimum speed limit? What level of traffic requires the limit to be ignored? How about when the road is frozen or flooded? Or if your vehicle enters limp mode.

Again if you can't see that you are rapidly gaining on another vehicle then you are the hazard, especially on a motorway as they are designed to have long sight lines so you can travel fast. There's a reason why you are neatly always responsible if you rear end another vehicle.

Because the motorway is the shortest route?

Because farmers pay taxes too?

Because a motorway isn’t a raceway?

A tractor on a two-lane road is not any more of an obstruction than a car driving slowly on that road. It is less of an obstruction than a caravan (which is longer). If you are so bad at anticipating hazards that a tractor driving at 50 km/h creates problems for you, then it is you who should not be on the motorway.

The speed limit in M50 is 100km/h, not 120.

I don’t understand the rationale of people blaming tractors for their own bad driving. A tractor is no different a hazard to an elderly driver driving their car slowly.

Sorry, but where on earth did you hear this nonsense? HGVs are not banned from using the passing lane: they are only prohibited from exceeding 90 km/h. The UK does have a general ban on HGVs using the third lane on three-lane motorways, but in this country there is no such law.

I'm not blaming tractors for my bad driving.

The issue is every vehicle needing to get out into lane 2 without warning.

With roadworks we'd have signage from 1km out.

Tractors pass no roadworthy test.

(There is a test but Agri tractors are exempt)

Tractors run on green diesel.

Tractors can be driven by an untested 16 year old. (not in motorway I hope)

Tractors can do up to 50kph, some 60 and Fasttracs up to 80. But put a load on a 50kph with a hill and it'll do 40.

Tractors are too slow, badly maintained and often too badly lit for motorways.

Not in the outermost lane, they don't (legally), unless there is an obstruction ahead or a speed limit of 80km/h or less.

Cars don't have to have a flashing amber beacon while driving on the road.

Too slow for the prevailing traffic.

And no Agri tractors pass a road worthiness test. As we all know self regulation is no regulation.

An obstruction is a break down or a tree branch. Just because they use lane 2 all the time doesn't mean they can

I like farmers. My father is one. My uncles are too and my cousins Every motorway has an alternative (bar m50). They are better off on them

The ones using all the local roads around south Dublin when they could be popping on the M50 - what's the point in building these motorways if drivers continue to stick to local roads?

What about tolls? Why are we building these motorways if drivers won't bloody use them, even whinging about having to have to pay a few quid towards the huge cost of the infrastructure? Sounds like we should stop building motorways all together if we can't rely on drivers to use them.

Funny how you're well up for having a go at cyclists for not using the old road, but any suggestion that motorists should use the dedicated spaces built specifically for them isn't 'sensible' in your book? Double standards perhaps?