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Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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    #6152
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    saabsaab wrote: »
    We can thank the travel variants for the delays in reopening.

    Not introducing MHQ for India brought Delta here


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    #6153
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Over 50% of covid cases in Northern Ireland are now the Delta variant as of this week. 60,000 people a day cross over the border between Ireland and the North. We could have let in 0 people from India for the past year and Delta would still be here thanks to the North.

    Once again it just proves theres absolutely no point in the MHQ system when we have a completely open land border with another country, with no restrictions or controls on it.


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    #6154
    [Deleted User]
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    Red Silurian wrote: »
    Not introducing MHQ for India brought Delta here

    Probably not introducing it quick enough in the UK doomed us to have delta
    That was Boris not wanting to have MHQ in place when he flew to India on an official visit
    He ended up not going as delta was ripping through India
    Utter ineptitude and brexity selfishness again instead of prioritising crucial measures in a pandemic


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    #6155
    Jack1985
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    saabsaab wrote: »
    We can thank the travel variants for the delays in reopening.

    Oh, boohoo, the fact you can't comprehend variants will continue to develop is quite something, we're nearly 18 months into this. The only thing preventing reopening is the conservative preachers in the Department of Health.


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    #6156
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Oh, boohoo, the fact you can't comprehend variants will continue to develop is quite something, we're nearly 18 months into this. The only thing preventing reopening is the conservative preachers in the Department of Health.


    Nonsense. Of course variants will continue to emerge no argument but we can delay their spread until a large percentage of our population is fully vaccinated. This is our best hope to get out of this and defend against variants both new and old.


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    #6157
    a_squirrelman
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Nonsense. Of course variants will continue to emerge no argument but we can delay their spread until a large percentage of our population is fully vaccinated. This is our best hope to get out of this and defend against variants both new and old.

    What is your new magic date? September?


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    #6158
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    a_squirrelman wrote: »
    What is your new magic date? September?


    No magic, imported variants have delayed us. Probably would have been end of June otherwise. Now end of August, unless we import a newer variant.


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    #6159
    a_squirrelman
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    saabsaab wrote: »
    No magic, imported variants have delayed us. Probably would have been end of June otherwise. Now end of August, unless we import a newer variant.

    You may close that border with the north. It’s clear as day that’s where the variants are coming from.


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    #6160
    Diarmuid
    Registered Users Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    a_squirrelman wrote: »
    You may close that border with the north. It’s clear as day that’s where the variants are coming from.

    I can't believe that some here still haven't found the ignore button for certain posters


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    #6161
    is_that_so
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    saabsaab wrote: »
    No magic, imported variants have delayed us. Probably would have been end of June otherwise. Now end of August, unless we import a newer variant.
    Actually, they haven't. A decision by NPHET based on their view of said variant is what's doing it and of course the government following their advice.


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    #6162
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    saabsaab wrote: »
    We can thank the travel variants for the delays in reopening.

    You should email Tony, have him make Michael Martin pull up the train tracks crossing the border and dig up the roads.


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    #6163
    Tenger
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    py2006 wrote: »
    The missus and aunt work in the airport. Social distancing while queuing is non existent.

    The UK/US flights were next to empty last year and most of this year. Fairly full nowadays.

    So no actual access to the data then?

    I have access to the data from one airline. Doesnt mean I know the data from the rest of them.
    And a lapse in social distancing while queuing is a fault of the airline/airport staff who should be encouraging passengers to adher to the clear guidance given.


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    #6164
    0lddog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    You should email Tony, have him make Michael Martin pull up the train tracks crossing the border and dig up the roads.


    Mary Lou's crowd used to be great at doing that...maybe try her first ?


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    #6165
    faceman
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    Red Silurian wrote: »
    Not introducing MHQ for India brought Delta here

    Australia called and said hold my beer


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    #6166
    0lddog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    faceman wrote: »
    Australia called and said hold my beer Fosters


    FYP


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    #6167
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Blut2


    faceman wrote: »
    Australia called and said hold my beer

    The Australians are now talking about being in and out of lockdowns, with full border closure, until March 2022 at the earliest. And thats presuming they manage to keep getting a lid on the outbreaks every time they happen. Another year of covid madness while the rest of the developed world opens up this summer...

    How anyone could want to emulate their system is beyond me.


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    #6168
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Blut2 wrote: »
    The Australians are now talking about being in and out of lockdowns, with full border closure, until March 2022 at the earliest. And thats presuming they manage to keep getting a lid on the outbreaks every time they happen. Another year of covid madness while the rest of the developed world opens up this summer...

    How anyone could want to emulate their system is beyond me.


    Worked ok for them so far but they would need to vax their population.


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    #6169
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Tenger wrote: »
    And a lapse in social distancing while queuing is a fault of the airline/airport staff who should be encouraging passengers to adher to the clear guidance given.

    That's ridiculous.

    We are not talking about children in a playground, we are talking about grown adults who have made the choice to travel during a pandemic.

    The airport can only leave out guidelines and markings for social distancing and sanitiser etc they can't physically force it.

    Most people who have travelled up to of late really couldn't care less about covid etc


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    #6170
    Multipass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    py2006 wrote: »
    That's ridiculous.

    We are not talking about children in a playground, we are talking about grown adults who have made the choice to travel during a pandemic.

    The airport can only leave out guidelines and markings for social distancing and sanitiser etc they can't physically force it.

    Most people who have travelled up to of late really couldn't care less about covid etc

    My Mum (in her 80s) just came back from a trip to the uk - the queues for document checks in the airport meant that the passengers on her flight had to queue on the tarmac after disembarking. I’d have thought that was a safety risk in itself.


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    #6171
    maestroamado
    Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Multipass wrote: »
    My Mum (in her 80s) just came back from a trip to the uk - the queues for document checks in the airport meant that the passengers on her flight had to queue on the tarmac after disembarking. I’d have thought that was a safety risk in itself.

    Dublin Airport is Crazy. Passport control has to check Passport, passenger locator and Covid result.
    There is clearly no proper system in place... No QR scanners to automatically scan documents...


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    #6172
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Blut2 wrote: »
    The Australians are now talking about being in and out of lockdowns, with full border closure, until March 2022 at the earliest. And thats presuming they manage to keep getting a lid on the outbreaks every time they happen. Another year of covid madness while the rest of the developed world opens up this summer...

    How anyone could want to emulate their system is beyond me.

    I've read a lot of dumb posts on here but this one takes the biscuit.

    Australia is the envy of the world to any sane person. Sure, they're vax program is a little slow but they will catch up. In the meantime they're living with the lowest covid rates In the world.


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    #6173
    Blut2
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    ginoginelli wrote: »
    I've read a lot of dumb posts on here but this one takes the biscuit.

    Australia is the envy of the world to any sane person. Sure, they're vax program is a little slow but they will catch up. In the meantime they're living with the lowest covid rates In the world.


    They're living under the constant threat of new full lockdowns being imposed, they're repeatedly having new outbreaks of corona, and their borders have been shut for almost a year and a half already - keeping the tens of millions of Australians with foreign family separated from their families, missing vital life events like funerals and births. And they have massive widespread vaccine hesitancy, with a large percentage of the public simply refusing to be vaccinated.

    And they're now facing another year at least of all of this prison sentence, while the rest of the world goes back to normal.

    I know where I'd rather be living for the next 12 months, and its sure as hell not in Australia. Its literally anywhere else in the developed world.


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    #6174
    maestroamado
    Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Does anyone know what Belfast Airport is like as Dublin is not up to speed with what is needed.
    It may be they will get the equipment needed as it was too slow on arrivals last week.
    I think i read here people queued on tarmac....


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    #6175
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    ginoginelli wrote: »
    I've read a lot of dumb posts on here but this one takes the biscuit.

    Australia is the envy of the world to any sane person. Sure, they're vax program is a little slow but they will catch up. In the meantime they're living with the lowest covid rates In the world.

    With only 3% of their population vaccinated, a high degree of vaccine hesitancy, uncontrolled outbreaks of covid and a lack of ability to leave the country for any reason, I’m not sure who is envying Australia.

    We will have reached herd immunity and they will be still a way behind.


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    #6176
    maestroamado
    Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    faceman wrote: »
    With only 3% of their population vaccinated, a high degree of vaccine hesitancy, uncontrolled outbreaks of covid and a lack of ability to leave the country for any reason, I’m not sure who is envying Australia.

    We will have reached herd immunity and they will be still a way behind.




    We need to look after here.... Think this thread about control at Airports.
    No Aus airports around here....


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    #6177
    joseywhales
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    Flying in this evening with a few friends.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/7XtEgchijKAPxMxMA


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    #6178
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Blut2 wrote: »
    They're living under the constant threat of new full lockdowns being imposed, they're repeatedly having new outbreaks of corona, and their borders have been shut for almost a year and a half already - keeping the tens of millions of Australians with foreign family separated from their families, missing vital life events like funerals and births. And they have massive widespread vaccine hesitancy, with a large percentage of the public simply refusing to be vaccinated.

    And they're now facing another year at least of all of this prison sentence, while the rest of the world goes back to normal.

    I know where I'd rather be living for the next 12 months, and its sure as hell not in Australia. Its literally anywhere else in the developed world.

    Australia's Covid response (along with New Zealand ) is made so much easier by their Geographical situation and ease of Isolation,just ask any of their guests on Papua New Guinea.

    Quite what their economy will look like in 12 months time is as yet an unanswered question,but then again Ireland's may be equally scuppered unless we wake up and make some Coffee to smell !!


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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    #6179
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Know a fella that flew out to Spain last month un vaccinated said it was just as bad here as there but he now has Covid! Recovering now, but it was a bad dose.


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    #6180
    gral6
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    saabsaab wrote: »
    Know a fella that flew out to Spain last month un vaccinated said it was just as bad here as there but he now has Covid! Recovering now, but it was a bad dose.

    I know a fella, who took luas from Tallaght to Point 2 weeks ago, he has covid now! He is un vaxxed, recovering now from running nose!


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    #6181
    Cosmo Kramer
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    maestroamado wrote: »
    Does anyone know what Belfast Airport is like as Dublin is not up to speed with what is needed.
    It may be they will get the equipment needed as it was too slow on arrivals last week.
    I think i read here people queued on tarmac....

    Both Belfast Airports I believe are fine. I'm at a loss as to why anyone would fly from Dublin Airport rather than one of the Belfast ones at the moment if a similar destination is available. It is entirely possible to follow the current Irish Government requirements while flying from the North to avoid the mess at Dublin airport at present.


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