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How are Agri-Contractors making money?

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    #122
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Henry... wrote: »
    What does it.mean

    People who keep horses

    The horsey world tends to attract a lot of "characters", it's one of few businesses that still operates with large amounts of cash transactions. Compared to cattle or sheep there isn't great traceability on horse's, combined with dealing in cash it's easy to use horse trading as a cover up for other nefarious businesses. I know a fair few horse people who are broken down cattle/sheep dealer's, known criminals or just general dodges.

    There's some genuine great people in the horsey world and it would be totally unfair to tar them all with the one brush. However for the reasons outlined above and others the equine world seems to gather more than it's fair share of pricks.


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    #123
    Ryertex
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Ryertex


    Henry... wrote: »
    What's that all about then

    Most of the big operators in the horse world look like they're tight with money
    It seems to be the case that when it comes to money, the horses take priority over everything else. I worked with a fella once who would spend 10 grand on a horse and drive a E500 car. Always breaking down.


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    #124
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,225 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Not too far from me is a 200 acre farm. Flaking land. It owned by a lad that has a few horses. Majority of horses that pass through his hands are useless. He be turning a few ponies and donkeys as well.not a screed of a fence or a blade of grass on the place. His few Cate would be breaking into everybody's else's place and the few cattle he have would be harmless. He be grazing a few cattle for a few lads.

    You could not make 40-50k on cattle with a little effort. Everything from the house, to the sheds, cars and anything else around the place is falling down or falling apart. Usually gambling is part of it as well

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #125
    Henry...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Henry...


    Had a contractor behind me there recently

    I was doing the speed limit in the car

    He was going mad blowing the horn and gesturing at me

    Doesn't sound like a great job overall


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    #126
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    How much did you owe him? :D


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    #127
    Henry...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Henry...


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    How much did you owe him?

    He was trying to pass in the tractor

    Then again think he just wanted me to go faster , hard enough for them to overtake


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    #128
    Banana Republic 1
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    Easten wrote: »
    As far as I can tell some of the contractors are making an absolute fortune and are taking the pss with the prices.
    The prices I got quoted for hay bales this week was 7 for the round bale of hay and 85cent for the small square bale. I got a neighbors old square baler and done it myself. 1143 square bales for about 50 euros of diesel.

    Did you pay yourself for the time spent


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    #129
    Mad_maxx
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    Henry... wrote: »
    Had a contractor behind me there recently

    I was doing the speed limit in the car

    He was going mad blowing the horn and gesturing at me

    Doesn't sound like a great job overall

    How is that possible?

    Tractors rarely go above 40 kph

    Was it near a school


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    #130
    Bass Reeves
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How is that possible?

    Tractors rarely go above 40 kph

    Was it near a school

    It might have been his land cruiser and browser.

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #131
    Henry...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Henry...


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How is that possible?

    Tractors rarely go above 40 kph

    Was it near a school

    In a 50 zone seemed to be a fast tractor


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    #132
    Fils
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    Henry... wrote: »
    Had a contractor behind me there recently

    I was doing the speed limit in the car

    He was going mad blowing the horn and gesturing at me

    Doesn't sound like a great job overall

    I’d have slammed on the brakes and leave his wallet pick up the mess.


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    #133
    Easten
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Henry... wrote: »
    Had a contractor behind me there recently

    I was doing the speed limit in the car

    He was going mad blowing the horn and gesturing at me

    Doesn't sound like a great job overall

    I'd have slowed down even more, drive the nut job mad


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    #134
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Easten wrote: »
    I'd have slowed down even more, drive the nut job mad

    I'd have pulled in to let him by,
    sometimes it's as easy to let people on their way, than makeing a statement.


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    #135
    Fils
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    I'd have pulled in to let him by,
    sometimes it's as easy to let people on their way, than makeing a statement.

    Are you for real? That was road rage that the person experienced. You suggesting they should bend over and get rodded.


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    #136
    Jb1989
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    Fils wrote: »
    Are you for real? That was road rage that the person experienced. You suggesting they should bend over and get rodded.

    Depends how much under the 50 the motor driver was doing.
    Yes I'd suggest pulling in if someone was in more of a panic than me.


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    #137
    [Deleted User]
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    Jb1989 wrote: »
    I'd have pulled in to let him by,
    sometimes it's as easy to let people on their way, than makeing a statement.

    Me too. However, for the tailgater who just won't pass, I find the windscreen washer a blessing. After the second or third dose of it I find they stay back.


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    #138
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Me too. However, for the tailgater who just won't pass, I find the windscreen washer a blessing. After the second or third dose of it I find they stay back.

    Tailgaters are often more of a problem than the slow moving vehicle in front


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    #139
    Reggie.
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    Fils wrote: »
    Are you for real? That was road rage that the person experienced. You suggesting they should bend over and get rodded.

    Yes pull in, why escalate the situation further. The man could be under pressure and/or having worked through the night or very early that morning.

    Just pull in.

    Let him on.

    Call him whatever you want and move on.

    Simples


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    #140
    [Deleted User]
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Tailgaters are often more of a problem than the slow moving vehicle in front

    Usually yep.


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    #141
    Mad_maxx
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    if a tractor is blowing the horn behind you ? , you must drive like my aunty Mary who is eighty five and drives like its Sunday every day


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    #142
    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Fils wrote: »
    I’d have slammed on the brakes and leave his wallet pick up the mess.

    And have a tractor weighing 10 tonnes plus a four tonne trailer (if empty) or up to twenty tonnes (if loaded) go, not into your car, but probably across it. His wallet would never be able to clean up that mess.


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    #143
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,115 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/table-contractor-association-releases-full-2021-guide-rates/

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    #144
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Depends how much under the 50 the motor driver was doing.
    Yes I'd suggest pulling in if someone was in more of a panic than me.

    Its the same folk always in a panic. Some of us can occasionally be also,but don't resort to road rage type behaviour on a highway on them days.


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    #145
    straight
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    Henry... wrote: »
    Had a contractor behind me there recently

    I was doing the speed limit in the car

    He was going mad blowing the horn and gesturing at me

    Doesn't sound like a great job overall

    You should have pulled in out of the man's way. Be fiddling away in your own time like.


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    #146
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    straight wrote: »
    You should have pulled in out of the man's way. Be fiddling away in your own time like.

    He was doing the speed limit. Doubt he was fiddling away.

    I got me wings clipped recently on this forum for suggesting to another poster to trim a hedge back a touch less than a week after 28th February as ground was dry then as opposed to wet in February.

    Seems protecting birds that had not even started nesting is more important than human life from some incensed motorist wanting to arrive a couple of minutes sooner through speeding on a road.

    Have yet to see silage lost to weather from some lad arriving a few minutes later.


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    #147
    Henry...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Henry...


    It's a joke the amount of tractor drivers on the fone

    It's like every second one is on the mobile


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    #148
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Henry... wrote: »
    It's a joke the amount of tractor drivers on the fone

    It's like every second one is on the mobile

    Shur when they spend all the money on the shiny new paint work, they haven't any left for hands free technology. ( tell you " couldn't afford it")


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    #149
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    ruwithme wrote: »
    Shur when they spend all the money on the shiny new paint work, they haven't any left for hands free technology. ( tell you " couldn't afford it")

    Same as cars drivers, guards included, people are people


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    #150
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    No problem with someone chatting on the phone, but people messaging etc is lethal


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    #151
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,630 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Thanks FM, so a ballpark for spring barley costs per acre is about €280 (incl. VAT) per acre just for the machinery hire cost.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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