Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

You are going to get a lot of different opinions on this. My two cents for what its worth?

The general consensus is that Pfizer is indeed the best vaccine at the moment and hse portal currently is 25+ so you're probably looking at what, approx 2 weeks for that to switch to 18+ then another 3-7 days approx to get the first jab appointment? So maybe 3 more weeks that she would have to wait.

Any vaccine provides some protection and with the delta variant knocking around is it something you want to risk? Of course on the other hand you could argue she waited this long to get a vaccine so what's another 3 weeks to get a better one? But she already has an appointment. If in your shoes i would hate to tell her to hold on then comes into contact with it.

Most of us are going to be getting boosters shots at some point surely. So it's not like a one shot for life as well.

Possibly 95% or more when all is said and done. The most recent surveys suggested that less than 5% would refuse a vaccine. Once you get to near-total levels of uptake, the refusers will probably wither further as they realise their family and friends haven't gotten ill or become subject to mind control.

All the Dublin Live types on social media aren't getting the vaccine but it seems they're a tiny minority according to the figures. Mostly folks who were failed by the system and their families tbf. but on the comments section they seem to be very numerous (that being said more than half could be fake profiles, no pictures of self and possibly based overseas).

I suspect this will be the case with 90% of nay sayers provided we keep the restrictions on the unvaccinated travelling but I think they're counting on all travel restrictions being lifted once the virus dies out and that does happen, I guess that's how we'll get re-emergence of new strains.

It's also an opportunity to review the aviation industry and how we travel and how often in light of climate change. I think it's past time on banning internal flights or taxing them heavily, especially in countries like France and Spain that have extensive high speed rail networks that require public subsidy to work. Ireland is still subsidising flights to Kerry for some reason and there doesn't seem to be any political appetite to tackle that.

Based on who I saw in the centre in Citywest, I don't think there's any major issues with minority background takeup.

With the pharmacies and doctors already having done a sizeable portion of that age group they I guess want to ensure there is no slow down in the MVCs who are doing high numbers plus the AZ second doses which take up resources are coming to an end now as well. It might also be a hint that the Romanian supplies are expected soon. Basically get those jabs into arms ASAP.

Maybe we'll have a different experience than the UK and US on that front so but I'd be surprised if we do.

Well he starts by "In scenario where R is 6 (plausible for Delta in susceptible populations without any restrictions)". Why 6 and not 2/3/8/10 ?

Sorry but in this case I read "plausible" as "I just made up this number and then we will follow a very precise calculation so that my conclusion seems backed by science".

With a R=3, you get 78%

Wih a R=2.5, you get 70%

If the reproductivity rate of a virus is 2, and that a variant is 40% more transmissible (and it needs to be the case in all situations globally, not just the worst case scenario taken in the worst neighborhoods in UK), then the R becomes 2.8. Why 6 ?

Even with the very high uptake here 98% is impossible, short of actually forcing people to take the vaccine.

Sounds unlikely, so calculation is most likely flawed. When you do the leaving cert they tell you to make an educated guess for a range of values before you go applying formulas so that you don't get some crazy answer by misplacing a decimal point somewhere.

In this case you'd have a room of 100 people with 98 of them vaccinated and 1 of the 2 unvaccinated people carrying the virus, that one person manages to infect the other non vaccinated person, an event as unlikely as death by lightning strike one would expect.

A welcome and necessary decision although forced on the HSE by the rise of the Delta varient. A complete u turn of position up to a few days ago that 25-29 would be allowed register for MRNA in Aug and 18-24 in Sept. Finally bringing pharmacies on board has increased capacity and the MVCs would have run out of people to vaccinate soon if they didn't open registration.

if they use some of the stockpiles that have built up and MVCs are allowed vaccinate at their own pace no reason all first doses can't be done by end July.

It appears to have been edited in the last few minutes. It now says people 18+ can opt in to AZ from Monday (as was planned previously).

As far as I know all of those affected have already been contacted