Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

can anyone tell me what ages the people are being admitted to hospital and if they have been half or fully or not vaccinated?

thanks.

1173 today, more than 80% under 45, no test as yet to determine those susceptible to suffer from long Covid, where are you getting it is less of an issue?

AFAIK there is no treatment to stop people suffering long covid thus far.

I suppose it depends on your definition of 'huge risk'. If you are now one of the unvaccinated young that today are being told by a UK research report that you have a far higher than previously thought chance of developing a 'long covid' condition (heart, lung, kidney issues)... then you are now the most vulnerable category and you might not share the 'not a huge risk' attitude..

Bottom line is... less people should be seriously affected by this current delta wave.... but if you are now in the target virus group (young and unvaccinated), you are now the most vulnerable risk and the more people that catch it, the more will end up in hospital. Todays research shows that a sizeable proportion of those who end up in hospital, including the young, will develop long term conditions. It is still a numbers game - the higher the rate of infection generally, the higher the risk of increased hospital cases. If you end up in hospital, young or old, you have a higher than previously thought chance of having a long term condition. Ronan Glynn explained it well on the 6 one news tonight.

We do not have enough of the overall population vaccinated yet to say that the disease is no longer a huge risk. It is currently a higher risk for the young .... who decides how huge that risk is, on their behalf?

https://sciencenorway.no/covid19/norwegian-study-more-than-half-of-young-people-with-mild-covid-19-infections-experienced-long-covid/1880560

I apologise I did not know your many qualifications and the studies on covid you were involved in before I posted, I won't make the same mistake again.

All I know is my dad who is in his 60s had what looked extremely like COVID, very early in the outbreak. At the time everyone brushed it aside.

He had been around people who’d been travelling extensively. He got what was diagnosed as viral pneumonia (based on oxygen levels) and was treated at home with antibiotics, antivirals and steroids. I assume only the steroids worked as the other drugs would have only cleared bacterial infection or influenza.

I got it too. So did my brother & my niece.

We all recovered, but wow it was the worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life. It was so bad I even put emergency money into family members bank accounts for paying bills in case I ended up in hospital as I thought I was going to die. It was THAT bad.

My lungs were “bubbling” when I breathed and I spent nearly 3 weeks in bed. Couldn’t move. Huge temperature. Pouring sweat. Couldn’t smell. Couldn’t taste. Felt absolutely bloody awful. It about 3 months to feel remotely right again and even at this stage I still get out of breath way easier than I used to.

My GP at the time told me it couldn’t have been COVID and must have been flu. We didn’t do any tests and I had an antibody test 6 months after which came back negative, which I have subsequently learnt is meaningless as it was too late.

My dad still has a cough almost 2 years later. He’s has CT scans, MRI, and a bronchoscopy, without any significant issues other than mild scaring showing up but he’s still coughing really heavily, particularly at night.

He’s subsequently been double jabbed with Moderna. I’ve had one jab of Pfizer and so have the other ppl who got it.

In my experience, Long covid is *absolutely, definitely* a thing! Don’t just dismiss it.

Sounds rough :(

Hope his lungs recover a bit more, the poor guy. Glad you all recovered from the worst of it.

If it seemed like I was dismissing it, I'm not btw!

ISAG are back out polluting the airwaves now that cases are going up.

This quote jumped out at me

“Tony Holohan is one of the most respected public health physicians I know. If Tony Holohan says it’s not safe, it’s not safe. That’s who you should take your public health advice from.”

ISAG and members of NPHET are openly retweeting articles and backing each other up re prolonging closures. Yet no question to any ISAG member on their open wish to deceive the Irish public & Government.

Now we have Tony Holohan having the absolute gall to try and ban children from restaurants & claim they need a vaccine for a virus that affects them less than flu. A virus that will continue to circulate globally vaccine or no vaccine. The damage being done to the family unit, to children and their development and to society in general is huge from statements like this.

We have a HSE that seems worse than ever after Ireland spending 10s of Billions of Euro on the Covid pandemic, keeping businesses closed and people out of work instead of investing in new a&e’s, staff that came home when called upon, new hospitals and buildings.

One would have to wonder what the aims and objectives of these people truly are when facts don’t match the narrative.

I'd still listen to a scientist ahead of randomers on boards.

Apologies but you sound a bit off your head TBH, you don't accept preliminary studies that strongly suggest a significant number of people infected with suffer from long covid, your opinion counts far less than scientists who have studied this from the outset, in fact I would say to me your uneducated opinion is dangerous.

Most reasonable people would admit we need to be cautious until we have numbers under control due to what we already know about long covid, what we learn in the future will be of enormous benefit but what we already know is reason enough to be cautious.

We have never been in such debt before

it’s time we started accepting that

Tony Holohan hasn't tried to ban children from restaurants. He's said it's unadvisable to bring them into these indoor settings and that the safer option to eat outside exists.

There are also a number of people damaged by the vaccines, but no-one much cares about them.