Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Think I’ll breakout the tinfoil now, it’s getting ridiculous at this stage. Media and the powers that be are actually making the conspiracy theorists look good. You’ve also got the hypochondriac type covid twitchers ( formally known as a curtain twitcher that was sick of looking at said self in the window) reacting to every bit of covid news like it’s the fooking apocalypse… messy times!

Hi petes. Thanks for the feedback. :)

Still no side effects, but tired but as I said I'm on xanax too so hard to tell, arm is okay to was far worse for the first one!

Hi Tork. My sleep is not too good at normal temperatures. These last few nights, sleeping properly is very difficult. I''ll likely go back to work tomorrow. Cheers. 🙂

Hasn't the because of/with covid argument been a sticking point throughout this whole mess.

I don't think they've ever broken down the numbers that way.

The lack of data been given is worrying.

There's not much point in issuing numbers for hospital admissions if they're not because of COVID or the reason the person is in hospital is because of COVID, not some other issue. I appreciate things can be complicated, but all this will do is confuse the whole topic and feed conspiracy theories.

If you're in hospital because of symptoms of COVID, count that. If you're in hospital because you've a broken leg etc and happen to have mild COVID, don't count that for these stats.

It can't be that complicated for a bunch of clinicians to report that X people in this hospital are here because of COVID.

If you're admitted for something else, it's perfectly possible that COVID ends up being why you're staying though and many cases may have multiple serious issues simultaneously, including COVID.

The criteria should be : in hospital, being treated for COVID symptoms.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you are saying.

I asked the very same question here almost a year ago and got shot down and told that the question was irrelevant.

I am just interested that a senior figure in the HSE is now saying the same things that got you told to head on over to the conspiracy forum just a few months ago.

They have always published the figures of how many people contracted covid in hospital. It's was just done in 14 day reports. So not live and broken down into per hospital details.

The conspiracy issue comes from a time of the 'casedemic' when cases and hospitals were increasing (deaths as we know lag, those touting the casedemic didn't know that) and they were assuming/peddling a theory those in hospital went in with a broken leg and tested positive.

I'd say that's not too far from the truth. The issue is, an outbreak in mayo and Sligo is the cause of that. People read and assume that applies to all hospitals.

Be interesting if the CEO stated and gave figures of how many were there because of outbreaks.

It's best to listen to the interview if you can get it on a podcast. By the way he said it he's not specifically talking about the outbreak, more so in general about half are in patients for other reasons that test positive on admission.

Since I've seen comments asking about covid and hospital admittance and lack of data. I can share what my wife has been seeing lately. Take it as anecdote of course and is only relevant to her hospital in Dublin.

She said that now is nothing like any other point of the pandemic at all from her point of view and the impact on her hospital. She said now is more like a merry go round in terms of admittance and discharge. People in and out much quicker and the age profile seems younger. Most who she has dealt with were either not vaccinated, had 1 dose or were very close after 2nd dose. Patients have been largely easier to treat and some are even overnight stays.

She also said there's a steady enough flow of people coming in for the abundance of other reasons people attend hospitals for, and are testing positive unbeknown to them as don't have covid symptoms. These count towards the figures we see. But as someone above mentioned, they still need to be isolated and it does impact resources. But she feels they have more of an idea on how it impacts resources as they don't expect covid to keep them longer than the other reason they are in hospital for. It's easier to plan now.

Above is the general jist of what she was telling me. And only recently when she had a week off. There was no admissions in her hospital related to covid at all while she was off. So despite the hospital numbers increasing and then dropping a bit, there is more to it than just the numbers. There are lots to be positive about and the vaccines are doing their job.

Well for Mayo as it's well know there's an outbreak there. It went from 3 to 16 in 5 days (highest number of patients of all hospitals on 17th July).

So it's safe to say the majority of cases in hospital in Mayo is from an outbreak.

Is it correct to say the majority in Mayo hospital are being treated for other issues?, Yes, but extremely disingenuous.

Anyway that's just a specific hospital, but enough to skew the Connacht hospital figures.

I'm sure the 6 people in the matter/4 in ICU are not there after breaking a leg etc...