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Covid-19; Impact on the aviation industry

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    #4262
    PommieBast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Solobally8 wrote: »
    No need to insult people with special needs. The people who run our country are just elitist a**holes who don’t care about anything but their fat wage packet and pension.
    There's more to it than just those at the top. The Irish state as a whole (or at least the parts of it I have had to deal with) seems to have a pervasive shut-everything-down attitude rather than making any effort to keep things ticking over at reduced capacity.

    Requiring those travelling from the UK to take a total of three PCR tests is pure theatre.


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    #4263
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    1 July

    The EU Digital COVID Certificate enters into application throughout the EU.
    1 July - 12 August

    Phase-in period: if a Member State is not yet ready to issue the new certificate to its citizens, other formats can still be used and should be accepted in other Member States.

    Except for the fact that from the 1st - 18th July you'll get charged 2k fine if you go to the airport without an essential reason for travel!


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    #4264
    basill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭basill


    And to disencentivise you even more...why allow you access to the digital cert app now if fully vaccinated when they can kick the can down the road and put more barriers in place. Same goes for not accepting their own supposedly "gold standard" HSE PCR test results but making you pay twice for a certificate that will be up to 72 hours old.


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    #4265
    NSAman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭NSAman


    It’s unbelievable that the government are being so anti-opening.

    Every conceivable excuse is being used to stop people returning to what is left of their businesses. Aviation will be impacted for years.

    Ireland is loosing massive amounts of tourist and business revenue by the ridiculous NPHET and government decisions. NPHET”s latest pronouncement is hilariously crazy.

    Where I live in the States we have been open for months and fully opened for over a month. Very few wearing masks, people are still wary but getting on with life as “normal” as can be. Travel has resumed, with this weekend being 4th July 47 million people are supposedly travelling. Yet, cases in our local district are zero in the past three weeks (small population) and in the near by cities, 6 between two cities with populations over 500k and no hospitalisations.

    Most people are vaccinated, according to the local health department.

    I know personally, business people are avoiding returning to Ireland for summer. Myself will travel but spend time with family after spending time away from everyone for 5 days. The PCR test is off putting. I don’t mind at all, but it is just another crazy cost to visit family and try to clean up some mess in the business there.

    Aer Lingus must be burning massive amounts of cash at this stage. Seeing the international terminal in Chicago recently basically empty, was sobering. Domestic terminals were busy.

    I don’t see massive increase in cases here, hospital admissions are zero according to the hospitals reporting locally….yet aviation is uncertain to its future and the government is doing SFA about trying to give certainty.

    This virus is here to stay in one form or another. Variants will come and go, time to start acting like people have lives and businesses and staff to look after and pay tax to pay for all this BS.


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    #4266
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Ryanair's Q1 results out. Loss of €273m but revenue up 196% on a year ago, and load factor up 12 points from 61% to 73%. Cash position significantly improved (not that it was ever bad), €4bn up from €3.1bn at 31 March and net debt down from €2.28bn to €1.66bn.

    Customers are booking late, but they are booking - meaning it's all vaccines vs variants. Story of the pandemic. Earlier guidance was 80-120m passengers, now they're calling 90-100m for the year.



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    #4267
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117662195#Comment_117662195

    Does 90-100m break even?



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    #4268
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117663984#Comment_117663984

    They're guiding a small loss to break even. To be honest, Ryanair is having a great pandemic. Its balance sheet is incredibly strong and many of its competitors are going to come out of it with uncertainty or not at all. Ryanair will hoover up cheap aircraft, pilots and all the other pain points that existed pre pandemic will go away and they can expand to their hearts content. That's why the share price is trading up near historical highs versus IAG or Lufthansa for example not being a million miles off where they were at the bottom in March last year, or Air France / KLM actually lower than March 2020.



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    #4269
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117664354#Comment_117664354

    Well made points re Ryanair, they will come out of this much better than anyone else, do you think they will dip their toes into transatlantic given this may be a golden opportunity for them with the traditional carriers really struggling?



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    #4270
    Masala
    Registered Users Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Masala


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117664672#Comment_117664672

    Naw...... all that will happen is that the airports (and other contractors supplying services to them like Car Hire, Catering etc) will get squeezed again for better prices / discounts / incentives / marketing etc. They always revert to the same Well...... and then refuse to allow these suppliers revert back to pre-covid prices etc.

    Not to mention the auld 'aviation- disaster' beating up of Boeing - unless the latter have grown a set of liathroids since 9/11!



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    #4271
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117664672#Comment_117664672

    Nah. They’ll just fight for ever more market share in Europe and make money doing the thing that’s making them loads of money, versus getting into some totally new business model that other LCCs are struggling severely with.



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    #4272
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Theres a good article in the Irish Times this week:

    Eurocontrol says Irish air travel ‘worst affected’ in Europe last year -- https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/eurocontrol-says-irish-air-travel-worst-affected-in-europe-last-year-1.4767911

    Some choice quotes:

    [quote] Irish air travel suffered more from Covid-19 restrictions than any other European country last year, according to the latest assessment of the pandemic’s impact on aviation.

    The organisation says Irish aviation suffered worst from the pandemic in a report covering all of its region, which includes Georgia, Israel, Morocco and Ukraine.

    According to Eurocontrol, the Republic lost 183,000 flights last year compared to 2019, a 62 per cent decline in traffic.

    Eurocontrol’s report dubs the Republic “the most affected state” in its region in 2021.

    The Government imposed some of Europe’s toughest anti-travel measures during the pandemic, including controversial hotel quarantines that hit workers employed by multinational companies.

    The State waited until July 17th to adopt the EU’s digital Covid certificate, meant to reinforce European citizens’ right to freedom of travel, making it the last EU member state to do so.[/quote]

    I really hope the Irish government has learnt its lesson from 2021 and won't spend 2022 gutting our aviation and tourism sectors in the same manner. All of their extremely costly, destructive, measures have proven completlely unneccessary now, looking back on it. But I wouldn't bet on it...



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    #4273
    California Dreamer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Since when was an antigen test acceptable for travel to the US?

    https://www.v1medical.ie/aer-lingus-dublin

    Is it not supposed to be a PCR test?



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    #4274
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118474533#Comment_118474533
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html


    antigen testing meets requirements



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    #4275
    x567
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭x567


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118474533#Comment_118474533

    Antigen test within 24 hours of flying. Beware, if you have an onward connection, that we needed to show physical vaccination cards last week. JetBlue check-in staff wouldn’t accept the electronic cert on the phone.



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    #4276
    x567
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭x567


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118478020#Comment_118478020

    …International connection…



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    #4277
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118478020#Comment_118478020

    So they wanted the piece of cardboard you could conceivably make falsely at home vs. an official EU document…. makes sense



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