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New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    If you think the tan suit thing was bad you should Google Obama and dijon mustard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    to be fair that criticism was entirely justified. I mean, dijon mustard on a burger? Really?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭martingriff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,578 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, he was at one stage. Now he's just something that sounds like that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Here is the thing pretty much everybody with a brain does the same as Rashford. Now what he did but do stuff to show how good they are and in the end it may pay off in some way I bet you do the same. We may not be as rich as him but we do it for that little bit more we hope we can get. Ho about the 99 year old Major who raised cashed by walking up or down his lawn he got great exposure and probably got some stuff from it or that boy in Ireland who raised money for I think cystic fibrosis (forgive me as I am sure I got that right) He got to meet celebrities and win awards and trips to games. You going to write about them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Yup, but now he is an MEP who milks the system to get as much money as he can, employs his wife as his "secretary" and laughs about how easy it is to make loads of money at this "game".


    When asked how much money he is holding, Farage replies:

    This represents four working days and one journey. We're talking about £1,900. It's a good job this.  

    I worked it out that because so much of what you get is after tax that if you used the secretarial allowances to pay your wife on top of all the other games you play I reckon this job in sterling terms is worth over £250,000 a year to you - that is what you would need to earn working for Goldman Sachs or someone like that.


    He also claimed he was "skint" but the truth is different.


    Nigel Farage has earned up to €790,000 on top of his €100,000-a-year salary, putting him sixth in a list of the highest-earning MEPs.


    Now remember.....this is a "man of the people"


    But Marcus Rashford who may have got better or new sponsorship deals due to now having a higher public profile has been accused by a poster of doing something illegal without a shred of evidence.


    So, according to a poster in the thread


    old white millionaire guy who claims to be skint has scammed money off the taxpayers but he's ok

    Young Black man that grew up in poverty but is now a millionaire due to hard work, who made sure over a million children were fed during a pandemic, who forced the government to back track on taking school dinners away from impoverished children and has (after being a key player in the English football team reaching the final) become a role model for children may have upped his market value to potential sponsors is labeled a criminal.


    Can anyone else see an agenda here?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Don't forget the very yellow suit Bertie had when there was a G7 or EU meeting in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'm sure eskimohunt is too busy to respond. Probably recovering from having watched the hard-hitting interview and panel discussion that just happened on GB News.

    They've only been on air for about 6 weeks, and already they're getting big interviews with Donny Marie Jimmy Merrill Osmond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,124 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Yep one of the elites in the M25 bubble that he claims to be against



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Great to see Farage on there with his own show. Bonus points to see him annoy the usual brave lefty boys on here😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Who is he annoying? Most people are repulsed by that racist toad rather than annoyed. I don't think many here would watch him apart from the resident conservative sycophant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Ah i see that poster has found the thread, prepare yourself for loads more of that type of content.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Those are white though so there couldn't be anything inappropriate about them. Any advantage that they gain from charitable actions is perfectly appropriate. Rashford on the other hand is, well you know... therefor it must be assumed that his charity work must be suspected of being inappropriate. Not illegal or anything, just inappropriate. The lads in your example, totally appropriate. Not inappropriate like Rashford, for some reason.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I don't think those guys are even watching it. They're watching the carcrash.

    Myself personally, I'm checking in from time to time so that I can be there to see Irish posters praise British loyalism. They're well down that garden path already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


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    It appears that, Farage, in its first week of broadcast, beat Sky News Tonight with Dermot Murnaghan.

    Not the largest achievement in the world, perhaps, but at least it demonstrates that GB News does have an audience - which is not the kind of impression you'd get if you only read this thread.

    Monday 19th: 

    Farage – 96.3k/Peak: 108k

    Sky News Tonight – 75.4k/Peak: 78k

    Tuesday 20th:

    Farage – 85.3k/Peak: 99.8k

    Sky News Tonight – 53.9k/Peak: 63.3k

    Wednesday 21st:

    Farage – 71.7k/Peak: 83.6k

    Sky News Tonight – 62.1k/Peak: 70.9k

    Thursday 22nd:

    Farage – 67.1k/Peak: 78.6k

    Sky News Tonight – 55.8k/Peak: 60.8k



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can you point to somebody annoyed by his segment? Think Eskimo is the only one watching in thread at this stage...;)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Probably true, but then again almost 110,000 others along with myself watched the inaugural broadcast of Farage last week.

    Vince Cable was the guest on the Talking Pints feature last night and, as usual, it was a productive discussion with more light than heat. What you often get with other presenters (and Kay Burley comes to mind) is this idea that they can hammer their own perspectives down your throat with grave animosity. Whatever you may say about Farage, at least he agreeably disagrees with his guests. And that's always worth a watch.

    In fact, come to think of it, most of his guests are those with whom he disagrees. I wouldn't watch the show if it were an endless orgy of agreement. That would be both boring and unedifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Did you get those figures from this page? If so, why did you delete the BBC News ratings?

    Regardless, as I and others have pointed out, Farage was always expected to come in with fairly high ratings to begin with, which will likely level off a bit after a few weeks. But more importantly if the channel as a whole isn't getting ratings like that, or possibly even higher (again, given that Sky News and BBC News can compensate for low-middling ratings with the rest of their network whereas GB News has to stand/profit on its own), then the audience that GB News does have won't be enough to keep them viable/sustainable.

    I switched over last night during ad breaks for something else to see what was happening, and their big Monday night guest was Merrill Osmond. If I had to name four of the Osmonds, I'd only be able to name three, and Merrill still wouldn't have been one of them. Carole Malone's first question to him was to ask him to sing a few lines from one of their songs.

    As much as I'm sure Farage would love it, they can't just have him in the background supping on pints for every show. Farage's show won't save the channel. The rest of the channel needs to substantially increase their ratings.



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    Yes, I did get those figures from that page. I left out the BBC figures because it neither stated what the specific channel was and it also said "BBC Outside Source", whatever that is. For that reason, I stuck with something that is more certain.

    I'm not suggesting that Farage's performance is replicated throughout the entire channel. But when Farage was first announced as a presenter, the howls on here were that it "...was the final nail in the coffin"-kind of thing. I was one of the few who suggested that Farage will grab a significant audience, and that turned out to be right.

    Nobody is suggesting that the entire channel should be carried on his back, but it's a step in the right direction. If it were me, he'd have had a show from the outset.

    George Galloway, a creature of the Left (though avowedly anti-Woke), would also be a good addition to the channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    BBC Outside Source is just the programme that was on BBC News at the same time, in the same way Sky News Tonight was the show on Sky News at the same time. If anything it shows that more people watched a show most of us have never heard of, with a presenter most of us have never heard of (Ros Atkins), than watched Farage.

    Regardless as I said, most of us said Farage would bring in big ratings for a few weeks. The true tell, as with most new programmes of the like, is what the ratings are like after a month. How much of the audience are they retaining? Is the audience growing? There'll always be a big initial bump for a new show, new host, known figure etc. It's what happens after a month that is key (same as how GB News started off with okay ratings and after a month some shows viewing figures were statistically zero).

    The nail in the coffin stuff is more about the desperation in having to shake up their schedule after a month to pander to more of the leaning-right audience after having suspended a presenter for exercising his free speech and opinion (the core values of GB News) because the audience got angsty about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    George Galloway...


    Ah fella. Do you even believe the nonsense you type. I now know without doubt youve no real interest in any of this . It's just a thing to do to take you out of the mundane.


    Does it ever get boring?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    He'll be calling for Katie Hopkins to get a slot next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Its like a badly rendered bot or google translate piece.


    Just as many GBNews buzzwords as possible randomly flung together in a piece vaguely resembling a normal post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Imagine going to all the effort to cut out another stations figures etc, just to big up a show having a huge daily decline



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    In fairness, even comparing to Sky News, it seems Monday gets big figures and they both drop by about 25-30% from Monday to Thursday.

    For me, the key indicator will be that Dermot Murnaghan on Sky News is a known long-running programme with their own audience. Farage's show was brand new, so would attract more as people tuning in to see what it's like. Chances are the Sky News figures will remain fairly static week-after-week. It's how Farage's figures look after a few weeks that will be key.

    There's also the aspect that if GB News is being pushed forward as an alternative to Sky News/BBC News and targetting a different audience to those, then the combination of Sky and BBC's figures are trouncing GB News. There is an audience for what GB News are putting out, but it's still a small audience compared to the "leftist mainstream media"



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    George Galloway? I try to be precise with my language but that's just a new low you've sunk to. Galloway is probably the worst human being in British politics and having watch the Brits vote to wipe their backside with their own country half a decade ago because some hucksters didn't want to pay tax, that's saying something.

    I thought comparing Rashford with Saville was the lowest you'd sink to but well done.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Remember, it's not about quality, it's about wanting to "annoy the usual brave lefty boys on here".



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Very true. The fawning over Farage I at least get but Galloway is just a walking cultural tumour. Then again, if you are so desperate to take shots at someone like Rashford that you need to compare him to Britain's best know molester of children then I shouldn't be surprised.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    I'm well aware of Galloway's opportunism.

    That said, he knows how to court controversy - and for a broadcast channel, that is an advantage.

    Very few people like Piers Morgan, but they nonetheless tune in to hear forthright opinions.

    I'm applying the same principle here, even though I have many reservations about Galloway myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    GB News is now available to watch live 24/7 on YouTube.

    Just clicked on to it (a little bit of me died inside) to see the live number of viewers.

    334 viewing it at the time. I'm sure the other 180k subscribers will be along shortly.

    Sky had 7.4k watching live just to provide context.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Job done in my opinion much like the Trump thread it's the same posters getting offended by a tv station, you can always switch channels if it doesn't suit your world view, I know most of you are anti-English even the lad who lives over there!

    Btw I would have thought you would have all loved that idiot Galloway as he shares much of your political woke views!

    Personally I would give Brendan O'Neill his own show, that would really wind the twitter boys up!



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    Who's offended?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I don't have time to be offended. Too busy laughing at you and the other GB News supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Who is "offended" by it though? For me, the success or failure of the channel is simply an interesting topic of discussion. I haven't watched it bar flicking over to it a few times to see what was happening (and who could possibly be offended by Merrill Osmond?).

    It's not about us watching it or not, or if it suits our world view or not, it's about whether the stated target audience watches it or not, and as the ratings are showing the target audience either aren't really watching or are a smaller audience than expected.

    Trump is a much more different type of discussion because as a result of his position he has monumentially damaged political discourse in a way that is filtering out into other countries (even when George Galloway lost in the recent by-election in the UK, he went straight to claiming he was going to challenge the results in court, just like Trump). GB News isn't offensive, it's just interesting to see and discuss how it's performing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Why do you boys always think its "offence". Its mostly people laughing at GBNews.


    The only people that got offended by GBNews was the acolytes who wanted Harri cancelled for taking the knee.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    Exactly the conclusion I have been coming to. A lack of good faith in the posting at this stage.



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    Such a weak argument, bordering on ad hominem.

    Search back to my first couple of months posts in 2019 and you'll find that my views then are entirely consistent with my views now.

    Spitting out dismissive statements is unnecessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Because they are desperate for a "win" any "win" at all even a made up one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    Throwing George Galloway in as a person you want to see on GB News is just desparation. You know what he is and if he is the first person you think of of in terms of getting someone on to offer a counterpoint to Farrage, then it says an awful lot about you. You have spent the last two days making personal attacks on Rashford by repeatedly implying inappropriate behaviour without a scintilla of evidence so don't get so hurty when claims are made about you.



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    Whether you like or loathe Galloway is not the point.

    Also, I didn't proffer Galloway as a counterpoint to Farage. In many ways they overlap, in fact.

    Both support Brexit. Both are anti-Woke. Both are against Scotland being cleaved from the mainland.

    True, Galloway is avowedly socialist and against the capitalist system. Only in that major political sense is he a counterpoint to Farage.

    But Galloway attracts attention - and that's often all that matters for many broadcasters. The repellent Katie Hopkins was invited to ITV's This Morning not because she legitimately believes her views, but because she courts controversy - and that attracts viewers across the spectrum, those who love and those who loathe. For broadcasters, that's all that matters.

    And it's from that angle, the broadcaster's angle, that I'm thinking of - and not because I "like" George Galloway, because I don't.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's no principle here whatsoever. It's about the grubby attempts to gather views. Galloway isn't an opportunist, he's just a vile individual. I don't expect conservatives to object but their failure to do so just adds confirmation that conservatism isn't really much more than hoarding privilege and trolling. There's no longer any intellect behind it any more.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    Where did I say you "like" Galloway? I questioned your choice of him not your personal feelings about him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    They're confusing what they would like to be true with what is true. It's important to maintain the illusion that libs are being owned so the idea that we're all here being triggered is preferable to the idea that we're having a laugh at GBN's expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,124 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Its all part of this idea that everything is a battleground. Look at this eskimo fella feeling the need to counter everything and convince us with stats that are never going to work as if there are points to be scored or a battle to be won and lost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,296 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




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