Dublin Marathon 2021

Would it be fair to say that the relevant stakeholders are the government and the reason for delay is because they aren't getting a clear answer one way or another from them?

bucketybuck wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that the relevant stakeholders are the government and the reason for delay is because they aren't getting a clear answer one way or another from them?

Running is important to us.
The marathon is important to us.

Putting that to one side - no clear answer for something 17 weeks in the future is possible.

tunney wrote: »

Running is important to us.
The marathon is important to us.

Putting that to one side - no clear answer for something 17 weeks in the future is possible.

Nail on the head there.
The governement isnt commiting to anything more than a couple of weeks ahead right now, 17 weeks is over the horizon from their perspective, cannot see that changing in two weeks time.
From a logistical perspective for the organisers July 15th must be cutting things pretty close.
Will the government be giving commitments 15 weeks ahead then?, I doubt it.

It is impossible to believe that the country won't be in a much better position re Covid come October. They are saying 20-somethings will be fully vaccinated by the end of Sept. We are already in a good place - only 13 in ICU. But the whole of Europe is concerned about the Delta variant whether we like it or not.

That said, I don't envy the organisers here. It is the ultimate rock and a hard place. I know the likelihood of transmission is very very very low outside, but putting thousands of runners onto a street in close proximity and coupled with thousands of people shouting at them, I can see why they are slow to commit to it.

If they ran it and there was even 50 people who ended up in hospital because of it, there would be moaning about why they ran the event in the first place. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I wonder would they consider putting it back to April/May next year?

PhilOssophy wrote: »

It is impossible to believe that the country won't be in a much better position re Covid come October. They are saying 20-somethings will be fully vaccinated by the end of Sept. We are already in a good place - only 13 in ICU. But the whole of Europe is concerned about the Delta variant whether we like it or not.

That said, I don't envy the organisers here. It is the ultimate rock and a hard place. I know the likelihood of transmission is very very very low outside, but putting thousands of runners onto a street in close proximity and coupled with thousands of people shouting at them, I can see why they are slow to commit to it.

If they ran it and there was even 50 people who ended up in hospital because of it, there would be moaning about why they ran the event in the first place. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I wonder would they consider putting it back to April/May next year?

Any opinion on the number of cases in Dublin since the week long session in South William Street a while back?
You think runners would be packed in as tightly and for as long as the people were those evenings?
The 29th of May it was when Dr Holohan tweeted his shock at the crowds.

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Its long past this point I'm afraid.

The country is officially a shambles.

The UK will be removing ALL restrictions in a month..no masks, no social distancing NO anything. There is nothing of the sort planned here in fact the mood is suggesting we should have another lockdown to you know prevent further lockdowns:pac:

Let's revisit this in a month. I don't think this post will age well.

I feel for the organisers - it can’t be an easy decision to make at all and whichever decision they make in the end could well be the wrong one! The delay in the announcement says to me “maybe” rather than no, so I’d be hopeful yet. I wouldn’t mind but I don’t even have an entry, the husband does.

The world and it's people are going through the mill with the pandemic and people losing their mind over the marathon, outside of being one of the organisers count yourself very lucky if this race is an actual real worry for you. Would have thought people's perspective on many things since March 2020 might have shifted somewhat.

It would be great if it goes ahead but if it doesn't then so be it, I've ran the last 5 real world editions of Dublin Marathon and have my entry for the next one. If it goes ahead great, if it doesn't it's a pity but will get over it. I love the race and plan on running every one into the future whilst I still have legs to run.
I have started my training for a mid-late October marathon now but even if it doesn't go ahead the training is not going to do me any harm.

Best of luck to the organisers, as someone who is involved in trying to help host a club race in August this year and trying to deal with the requirements for track and field this year for our club members it really is not easy at all to do anything.

You don't need a race to train or the run, find something else to motivate yourself to train if you need it and just keep running!

rovers_runner wrote: »

The doom merchants win again.
I have sympathy for the DCM organizers and they are doing all they can here by pushing it back on Govt/NPHET.
They must have some buy in from suppliers and insurers as otherwise they would have folded by now but are persisting.

People like Aoife McLysaght, Mary Favier and Gerry Killeen need to strung up and flogged in public when this is over, their agenda is keeping themselves in the public eye for as long as possible with denial of the scientific testing/approach of the wider world in favor of keeping themselves relevant for a while longer.

i think your problems might extend beyond whether or not a race happens at some point later this year. Jesus.

DCM are in no position today to stand over a decision, were they to make it.
Gov are indicating today that the next stage of reopening won’t happen as planned on July 5th, so a firm decision is completely impossible for DCM to make at this point, but they want to give it every possible chance, which is only fair.
Meanwhile, it’s only a race.

event wrote: »

Its hard to believe the government havent just logged on to boards to get all their expert info. All the immunologists are posting here it seems.

People holding up the UK as some kind of model country. Where cases are continuing to rise. Where the travel minister refuses to say foreign travel wont be restricted again. Where they have had to delay their restrictions easing.

And other countries?

Russia - Yesterday had 20,000 new cases and 569 deaths - the highest figures since January.

Portugal - Announced new restrictions for a few regions as cases rise. Will need to look at others.

Israel - Has had to re-introduce masks indoors & are looking at other measures.

This is not a dig at you, first thing i want to say

569 deaths out of 144 million population in Russia!

Vaccines are 95% effective against the variant, this means the flu is more dangerous!!!

We are the only country in Europe where indoor dining is not back.
We got to start living again and get rid of this fear thinking.

I wonder can Dublin marathon get insurance to cover a lockdown exception?

I heard MM saying today that they are looking and learning from the UK, Portugal etc in relation to the Delta variant.

They are happy enough to do it when it's negative, but will absolutely refuse to look at pilot events or antigen tests in these countries and insist on holding useless tiny events in vast stadiums to bide their time to avoid opening.

ger664 wrote: »

Just got email from Madrid Rock and Roll. Race going ahead on 26th of September

Vaccination Certificate and PCRS/Antigen test 72 hours before Number pickup
Temp checks at start waves of 500
Wear mask in start area until race starts.
Pick up your own refreshments at aid staions
No live bands
No baggage Area

It can be done. My only worry is that we will be the only country not allowed to fly for non essential reasons in September

You had me until ‘no live bands’.
I’m out.

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Indoor dining pushed back 3 weeks apparently

Reckon DCM is a goner so

I think it’s less likely as no chance they could confirm by next Friday with the way Tony and co are talking

rovers_runner wrote: »

I would be more confident if anything, given the ahead of time increases in crowds permitted to the GAA matches this weekend.
If that keeps ramping up and goes well it bodes well for running events.

They are going after drinking culture as their agenda is to change this when the opportunity presents itself. Dining and sports can't be compared.

I do however think they will have to agree to forgo the expo and limit to Irish island only entries.

outdoor expo maybe?

How could they possibly plan the race with any certainty considering the noises coming from government and their track record of changing things at the last minute? It would be an impossible task.

So as most thought, no race.

Ah well

Will be shown to be the wrong decision in the fullness of time.

18,000 in Croke Park on Saturday and Sunday this week.

Half a million odd mixing in the streets of the capital on both days.

What's the difference? we will have herd immunity in Oct, it will only get better.

Got my money back. There's always tickets going if I want to do it

Jim Aughney and DM clearly explained their decision and it is the correct one based on the government restrictions (certainly debatable whether these are too conservative). But to have him mocked here by a wet lettuce is as laughable as it is cringeworthy.

Dublin Marathon is a commercial operation run by a private company. There is no obligation on them to provide the service you are looking for.

They looked at the situation and made a call based on the uncertainties, which create market risks.

Whether their call is correct or not is really irrelevant. Race organisation is an open market. I don't see any alternative Dublin Marathon taking up the slack. Wonder why?