Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

The end-goal is mass vaccination to ensure that most of the population will not encounter Covid, or variants, as a virus unknown to their immune system. This has always been the goal.

I'm not going to bother challenging your "vulnerable" comments, that's just naive and has been debunked several times already by others.

We actually exceeded the worst-case modelling at Christmas.

Some people are now trying to argue that the modelling was wrong because we haven't seen predicted hospitalisations and deaths, and this is coming after we made a policy change not to proceed with reopening indoors because the modelling suggested it was risky. It's exhausting dealing with people who don't seem to understand that modelling predicts the future if you don't make a change, it's not a crystal ball and the future will be different if you make changes.

If you are vaccinated Covid is no longer new to your immune system. If you get a headcold from the virus, or give someone else a headcold, it's not going to be the end of the world and we'll get on with our lives. Certain vulnerable groups and people working with them may need boosters. It sounds from the NPHET press conference today that we may be close to that point of normality thanks to the strong uptake of vaccines.

Great model I think banks used same one prior every recession.

So surely then we should expect massive waves of cases and deaths in neighbouring countries with less vaccine penetration if the modelling had any merit?

Ceadaoin "Well thats not going to happen with vaccines that don't stop people becoming infected or transmitting the virus, is it? "

Well, tell the virus to fcuk off then.

You've made some sweeping disgusting statements there, but to be expected I guess.

My daughter, age 17 was one of those 'vulnerable' but strangely, she wasn't obese. But has a complicated immuno health system. Do you suggested that there's enough done for her now, she's got the vaccine and needs to step aside for the likes of you to live your life?

As emotive as your post is, frankly yes. Your daughter has been vaccinated, what more do you want from society in this?

Obesity is 2nd only to old age as a risk factor

I know it’s offensive but being overweight is a huge risk factor

So what is your alternative? That the whole **** world hides under its bed for the rest of all time?

Firstly how do you know if I have lost income or not as a result of the pandemic?

Many nurses had no childcare in the first second waves of this and had to take leave or change so that one parent would be at home while the other worked.

Or else employ private babysitters for the duration at a major cost. Couldn't take parental leave as were needed to work, grandparents unable to help.

I worked extra shifts without getting any extra payment to cover for some of these hard pressed colleagues, and was meant to get time in lieu.

Guess what?. . that never happened... We haven't got our regular annual leave as its too busy never mind TOIL.

Only taking some leave now when possible.

But we will get sorted eventually and I don't regret it as those same colleagues have been there for me and mine in other ways through this which I will never forget.

But yeah let's not forget everybody else who suffered through this while healthcare workers and public servants are the baddies somehow according to you.

What about essential retail workers?

They have all worked the frontline creaming in overtime!

Let's go for them too, yes, the jammy beggars... minimum wage with everybody from masked to half masked in their faces every day!

What about people in pharmacies, GP practices , dentists with all that money they have been earning, how dare they?

Bus drivers only half filling their buses...... Lazy beggars?

Every single person who has drawn a wage during this... Getting money for doing... nothing? Should be ashamed of themselves!

I have Never said that it was OK for businesses to be closed, just understand why indoor dining was postponed along with many other people here. I have always supported the PUP and assistance for businesses.

I don't disagree about effects on young people or that outdoor sports should have been prioritised both for health and social reasons.

I have kids myself and the more people are vaccinated the harder it has been to explain why the need to keep with restrictions to them.

But you have been incessantly going on about people who have just been doing their best in their jobs through difficult times, for everyone.

You talk as if hcws have had it easy but it is obvious you only listen to what confirms your bias.

Now If you don't mind can I request you not reply or quote me again as you seem to be quoting me to have a go at hcws, public servants and all manner of restrictions etc.

While I do have a sense of responsibility I am not in any way shape or form to blame for everything that has gone on through Covid, and nor are any of the nurses I work with. Believe me when I say that we have too much to be doing but would be glad to help out if the government should fall and no one else will step in. After all that is what nurses do well, step in and sort it out when everyone else is off duty or it's not in their job description.

Three posts in a row is a bit much when I have already asked you not to because I didn't want to get into a ' to and fro' as I said yesterday.

I could see then we were only going to disagree and not get on, and I was so right 😊