Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

You do know a great number of obesity in adults is not from a person's lifestyle, but from a wide range of illnesses, medications, physical disabilities etc which can't be fixed by themselves.

Maybe read up on it.

Just a suggestion.

The ignorance on this thread is just astounding.

To be objectively fair, whilst some people are overweight for a medical reason, most are overweight due to firstly a bad diet and secondly from lack of exercise.

This is coming from someone who has been obese because I ate too much and could hardly run 100 metres.

People who can should be encouraged to be more healthy and make healthier choices, thus society will benefit by utilising less resources on preventable illnesses and thus being able to help those who can't help themselves.

Plenty of people have worn masks, got vaccinated and not agreed with NPHET. Shocking as it may seem.

I wonder how many people on this thread are partaking in this campaign to damage business who are on their knees putting jobs and livelihoods at stake? Was it just faux outrage at pubs being closer after all? Seemingly so.

After all, the comment the other day comparing anyone in favour of vaccine passports to drink alcohol inside as being the same to people in the past being complicit in the worst atrocities in human history had overwhelming support. Concentration camps, genocide, beheadings, a passport to drink alcohol inside, spot the difference fruitloops.

I hope you're all very proud of yourselves , you and your ilk are representing yourselves well.

Restaurants dealing with 'malicious, coordinated' campaign of abuse from anti-vaccine cert protesters

A Facebook page is coordinating an online campaign against businesses that reopened indoor dining this week.

THE GOVERNMENT HAS been told that pubs and restaurants have been the subject of coordinated online abuse and fake reviews this week by those opposing the use of Covid-19 vaccine certs to attend indoor dining.

The Restaurant Association of Ireland has written a letter to the Government about the issue, as well as to Facebook and Google. It is to contact the Garda Commissioner over ‘fraudulent’ posts that it said is causing its members’ businesses to suffer.

A Facebook page with hundreds of members which opposes the use of vaccine certificates has seen users post the names of businesses that have reopened indoor dining and resulted in hundreds of comments being left on businesses’ Facebook posts announcing their reopening.

Many of the negative comments on these businesses’ pages are from Facebook accounts which give their location as being far away from the pub or restaurant. 

When asked about the page, Facebook said it does not violate its rules.

One-star reviews are also being left on Google reviews for businesses that have reopened indoor dining. Many accounts posting one-star reviews that cite “discrimination” or a “two-tier” system have left similar reviews on multiple businesses across the country.

This comes after hospitality owners said last week that they had experienced false bookings, and staff had experienced abuse over the phone and on social media by people opposed to the Digital Covid Certificate.

CEO of the Restaurant Association of Ireland Adrian Cummins has written a letter to the Minister for Tourism Catherine Martin to state that its members have reported fake bookings and reviews on various platforms this week. The letter says:

As per our members, those leaving reviews are directly impacting upon the competitiveness of these businesses and their ability to trade.

“Fake bookings and reviews are a malicious, concerted and coordinated campaign of fraudulent misrepresentation towards small businesses who are simply adhering to the law of the land.”

Nooo, don't go!

Mike Ryan called it a 'no-win' situation back in March 2020, since some people would complain either way. Do nothing and people will complain that nothing was done, take preventative measures and people will complain they overreacted.

Hard to say for sure, testing rates haven’t reduced significantly, certainly not in line with the percentage drop in cases

What we can say is that the UK are 4-6 weeks ahead of us in terms of delta spread and the Euros probably led to much higher circulation amongst younger, healthier cohort. 2 weeks after both Scotland and England were both eliminated from the tournament the cases started fall but that may just be a coincidence.

An optimistic inference would be that the UK have reached the biting point where vaccination and previous exposure combine to push down infection rates. We may see oscillations in future but with much lower peaks in terms of cases and illness that we saw before.

I see Google are going to insist on vaccinations for all workers in the US and may do so here according to this.

Yeah but nowhere near the projected hospital problems, the only measure that matters now. They did not identify nor accept that the link between cases and hospitals has largely been broken. Henry has been hinting at this for months. There is also a level of annoyance at their not acknowledging the positive effect of the level of vaccinations. Sure there was a nod to it yesterday but that's 4 weeks on from their models and it's not as if the HSE have been that far out on how many jabs they could do. July supply levels have been consistent with what they said back in May.

Most viruses we vaccinate against are DNA viruses - they are stable and unlikely to mutate often, so vaccination is a safe bet.

We have never vaccinated away an RNA virus - influenza vaccines change every few years - and there are vaccines for A and B strains? Every wonder why?

Its because influenza is an RNA virus, and like RNA viruses it mutates often.

Yes - thats part of the reason why flu vaccines are administered yearly and continually updated. Sometimes that years vaccine is totally ineffective too, because they try to anticipate ahead of time what this seasons strain will be and sometimes theyre wrong.

25% of pubs refused to open with vaccine passports, citing it as unworkable. They are enabled under emergency legislation that will have to be renewed periodically in the Dail. Gone by xmas, if we continue with the current velocity of vaccinations because there's no way in hell a pub can run anything near a normal xmas trade if they have to scan QR codes at the door.

Source?

Last time I checked it was an RNA virus, and as we've seen over the course of the last year, has already mutated substantially into different "strains" with varying infectivity. Sounds pretty "unstable" to me.