Murder at the Cottage | Sky

Not sure if it's been asked / answered already but since the reason Sophie came to Ireland was supposedly to get the heating fixed, had she engaged someone to do the job? If not, would this mean that that wasn't the reason for coming or that she just hadn't gotten around to it

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From what I have read, the Garda suspicion seems to have been that either one or both of them visited the scene before the murder was 'discovered'. There was the details Bailey knew, like there had been no sexual assault and that she had been first struck from behind and then bludgeoned to death. There was JT's daughter's statement that they both left the house, corroborated by Bill Fuller, James Camier and JT herself after her first arrest (JT claims the statement was fabricated but IB actually corroborated what she said about him leaving the bed and changed his story accordingly).

Then there was the Ungerer statement which claimed JT told her in a pub one night that Sophie's body 'was an awful sight' or words to that effect. On top of that there was the McSweeney statement that IB approached him to have photographs developed discreetly and he claimed to have seen a woman's body on the ground in the pictures and could even say that he saw her clothes had been caught on barbed wire. The Gardai brought him to the scene and he said it resembled the scene he saw in the photographs, before IB grabbed them and left.

IB himself told several news organisations, supposedly just after hearing a french woman had been killed, that he had photographs of her and photographs of the scene taken around 11am, before he was supposed to have even known there was a murder. This was apparently all before he left the house and confirmed who the victim was and exactly where she lived.

From what I have read, the Garda suspicion seems to have been that either one or both of them visited the scene before the murder was 'discovered'. There was the details Bailey knew, like there had been no sexual assault and that she had been first struck from behind and then bludgeoned to death. There was JT's daughter's statement that they both left the house, corroborated by Bill Fuller, James Camier and JT herself after her first arrest (JT claims the statement was fabricated but IB actually corroborated what she said about him leaving the bed and changed his story accordingly).

Then there was the Ungerer statement which claimed JT told her in a pub one night that Sophie's body 'was an awful sight' or words to that effect. On top of that there was the McSweeney statement that IB approached him to have photographs developed discreetly and he claimed to have seen a woman's body on the ground in the pictures and could even say that he saw her clothes had been caught on barbed wire. The Gardai brought him to the scene and he said it resembled the scene he saw in the photographs, before IB grabbed them and left.

IB himself told several news organisations, supposedly just after hearing a french woman had been killed, that he had photographs of her and photographs of the scene taken around 11am, before he was supposed to have even known there was a murder. This was apparently all before he left the house and confirmed who the victim was and exactly where she lived.

From what I have read, the Garda suspicion seems to have been that either one or both of them visited the scene before the murder was 'discovered'. There was the details Bailey knew, like there had been no sexual assault and that she had been first struck from behind and then bludgeoned to death. There was JT's daughter's statement that they both left the house, corroborated by Bill Fuller, James Camier and JT herself after her first arrest (JT claims the statement was fabricated but IB actually corroborated what she said about him leaving the bed and changed his story accordingly).

Then there was the Ungerer statement which claimed JT told her in a pub one night that Sophie's body 'was an awful sight' or words to that effect. On top of that there was the McSweeney statement that IB approached him to have photographs developed discreetly and he claimed to have seen a woman's body on the ground in the pictures and could even say that he saw her clothes had been caught on barbed wire. The Gardai brought him to the scene and he said it resembled the scene he saw in the photographs, before IB grabbed them and left.

IB himself told several news organisations, supposedly just after hearing a french woman had been killed, that he had photographs of her and photographs of the scene taken around 11am, before he was supposed to have even known there was a murder. This was apparently all before he left the house and confirmed who the victim was and exactly where she lived.

From what I have read, the Garda suspicion seems to have been that either one or both of them visited the scene before the murder was 'discovered'. There was the details Bailey knew, like there had been no sexual assault and that she had been first struck from behind and then bludgeoned to death. There was JT's daughter's statement that they both left the house, corroborated by Bill Fuller, James Camier and JT herself after her first arrest (JT claims the statement was fabricated but IB actually corroborated what she said about him leaving the bed and changed his story accordingly).

Then there was the Ungerer statement which claimed JT told her in a pub one night that Sophie's body 'was an awful sight' or words to that effect. On top of that there was the McSweeney statement that IB approached him to have photographs developed discreetly and he claimed to have seen a woman's body on the ground in the pictures and could even say that he saw her clothes had been caught on barbed wire. The Gardai brought him to the scene and he said it resembled the scene he saw in the photographs, before IB grabbed them and left.

IB himself told several news organisations, supposedly just after hearing a french woman had been killed, that he had photographs of her and photographs of the scene taken around 11am, before he was supposed to have even known there was a murder. This was apparently all before he left the house and confirmed who the victim was and exactly where she lived.

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It's difficult to get a plumber at the best of times.

Good luck trying to fly into a foreign country on Friday, five days before Christmas, and trying to find one and have the heating fixed Saturday, Sunday or Monday before you were due to fly out again early Tuesday.

Ok. So do people think IB went over there at night, there was some sort of incident or disagreement which ends with the savage murder, he then went home and told JT and they both went over to check out the scene to see what was going on and may have also taken photos of her body?

In the podcast, when she recounts her interview with gardai and the odd statements that she made, which, in fairness, she later denied, she said she did have doubts about his innocence at that time. She then says something like 'it didn't last long, I can tell you that'.

Marie Farrell had no idea how tall the man was. The gardai basically forced her to make a guess. Her statement shows them repeatedly asking was he as tall or taller than some gardai around the place. She had no reference for men's height except her own husband. Holding her to the 5'8" she plucked from thin air is madness!

This is amazingly bizarre have to read into it a bit more. I keep an open mind that IB is guilty of murder or in the conspiracy to murder Sophie.

Whatever about the exact accuracy one would expect her to have been able to differentiate between close to average height and noticeably tall. There's quite a difference between 5'8" and 6'4".

It doesn't sound good that you say the gardaí basically forced her to make a guess, particularly when 5'8" became 5'10" and then Ian Bailey who would have been about 6'4".

It would be very poor interview technique if an interviewee was directed or coerced in one way or another towards something.  It would undermine the integrity of the statement.

I would have thought any Garda records would be confidential, can the statements be read somewhere or is that information from newspaper reports on Ian Bailey's civil actions?