South Africa violence and the country's future?

Unfortunately this has been coming in SA for a long time. Most white people who can leave, have. It’s a beautiful country, like nowhere else, but it is full of abject poverty and fear, terror and anger. I remember reading the newspapers there to read pages of murder and rapes all the time, it was just unbelievable. Life has no value, you’d be killed for a fiver. At this stage, there is no saving them, white or black, it will just play out as it will, and there’s nothing that can be done. Eventually it will descend to Zimbabwe levels and Sad thing is, there’s no need for it, SA is one of the best places, it has so much potential but rage has taken over, and in time they’ll realise you can’t eat that either.

The Corruption will exist regardless of who is in power as we have seen in the past in Ireland.... it's not just one political party that has been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

It is not possible to do business in South Africa without turning a blind eye to the corruption. It is at a stage that 90% of people are on the take and it is just accepted as a way of life.

If you need to get any documentation from the government you have the option of waiting a few years or to pay an intermediary to get the documentation for you who will have it within a couple of days after he pays a small bribe to the government official.

If you park a car you need to pay someone to watch your car, your still not guaranteed that it will be there or not broken into but if you don't pay the odds are way higher.... Call this entrepreneurship if you like but the same thing used to happen in Dublin in 80's and many cars burned out when people refused to pay.

If you get stopped for a traffic offence you are encouraged to pay a bribe to the police officer...

If you are to get a contract you need to bribe someone to even be in contention..

It's not right but it has become the norm and accepted by 90% of the population.

A lot of people will talk about race and blame this for the decline in South Africa but the reality is that it is not about race but corruption becoming the norm that has taken over and infected the country and is slowly killing it. If you look at basic utilities and services these have deteriorated because the money to repair and maintain has been siphoned off and into someone's pocket.

Will South Africa end up like Zimbabwe who knows but I don't see any positive changes whilst the corruption exists.

The corruption has existed a long time before Zuma came to power... The only difference with Zuma was that like a lot of despot leaders he saw himself as above the law so didn't even try and hide the corruption.

Personally, I can't see this happening as Gauteng is the economic powerhouse of South Africa.

It's sad to see South Africa go this way. So much hope and potential in the mid 90s

I totally agree with your opinion. If it was only black vs white and vice versa or simple racism, it'll actually be easy, as it's "only" an attitude matter. However in South Africa it's more, it's the whole Apartheid history, the have and have-not, and the have-not has no perspective in getting to have and success in life.

Currently South Africa has no future other than corruption, violence, robbery, murder and rape. Also if you're white, eventually you will lose you property and land and being driven off the country in some way shape or form similarly like in Zimbabwe. 10 years is probably optimistic, I'd say it's going to happen a lot faster. If you think this is not going to happen you're naïve.

If I'd be there, I would sell everything I could, accept any half way realistic offer on a property and leave.

Life is just to precious to spend it in a place like this and in a conflict where one can't win.

I am in South Africa, thanks. I have been here 11 years. I am keenly aware of the many serious issues facing the country, and I wouldn't attempt to sugar coat it.

I can also spot a race hustler from a mile away. Again, the recent unrest has nothing to do with relations between black and white communities, which are for the most part good. And again, it also has nothing to do with Apartheid era grievances.