Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Lived just across the East Link. The traffic affected me for years. So I have plenty of experience of Sandymount traffic, rat runs, etc. Great fun taking up to 1.5 hours getting from Merrion Gates to the East Link roundabout at busy times. Strand Road makes a great car park and will remain so for a while now. Pity all vehicles don’t have automatic shut off when stopped to save poisoning people.

Still miscomprehending . I’ll apologise on behalf of your schooling :p

It still doesn’t make cars the future of transit in cities.

Don't be silly. DCC are too busy preventing more apartments being built in the docklands.

There is a most disingenuous narrative round Strand Road linking the provision of the cyclelane to climate change, almost as if having the cyclelane will head off the projected sea level rise. Its quite bizarre really.

Yes we should decarbonise this Country, restore natural habitats and ecosystems and conduct ourselves in a much more sustainable manner, not just for the environment but also to remove the link of our economic fortunes to Oil and Gas. Unfortunately though, even if Ireland became the exemplar of green practices in the World tomorrow, places like Sandymount are still at huge risk because of the continued environmental ignorance of giant developing economies over which we have no control.

We'll need to flood protect Dublin Bay one way or the other, let's get designing that now and make it a haven for walking and cycling instead of getting in the weeds with nonsensical proposals like Strand Road.

Forcing traffic to the East Link Bridge onto roads less able to handle it has nothing to do with climate change.

What do you mean? Are you asking to specify what’s the alternative route a truck should take instead of northbound on Strand Road? It obviously depends on where it’s starting from and where it’s destination is.

Theres already a 5 axle ban in place in the city for many years. I haven’t seen Armageddon happen due to this.

No one is suggesting to ban motorised vehicles. It’s about making alternatives as attractive to as many people as possible.

Again you're thinking I said something I didn't.

To reiterate, we need to be massively ambitious in Ireland with the high level stuff, eliminate fossil fuels, decarbonise industry and agriculture, passive building standards, restore natural systems and encourage carbon sink growth, phase out ICE vehicles etc. But assigning such virtue to a piecemeal bit of cycle route is nonsense. Especially because of the consequent disruption and emissions increases elsewhere.

And it would be a dangerous precedent to exempt infrastructure for bikes from EIA, AA requirements. All major works have an impact that needs verifying. The fact that it will be bicycles using it in the end is irrelevant.

I'd also add that I haven't a clue how most of the City Council's COVID cycleways passed the three stage safety audit process for new works, so their track record needs intense scrutiny in my view.

From where? Dun Laoghaire? They should use m50 and port tunnel. Lighter vehicles should be used for within the city deliveries. I think it’s possible to have an exemption licence for journeys where there really is no alternative, eg delivery to a building site. This system is already in place.

There’s lots of alternatives.

Why do you think trucks want to get to East Link? It’s not their destination I suppose? They are transiting through to the port or M1/M50 which are all well served by tunnel.

Yes every other area needs to change first - agriculture, industry, building etc but not me. It’s just a rehash of no change is warranted because developing countries blah blah. It’s always someone else that needs to start first or be inconvenienced or have higher costs etc. This is just lobbying on behalf of one particular vested interests.

Yes, but not as a destination. They don’t stop and spend time viewing it or anything. They pass over it and will still be able to do so.

Your question has already been answered above.

Where do you think the trucks that you see crossing East Link northbound are going? Why do you think Strand Road is the right route for them to those destinations?

First Up. It took me all of 2 minutes to find that your weird East Link destination obsession was explained to you by multiple people on March 2nd.

Not all trucks are HGVs.

Strand Rd is the most direct and safest route to the East Link. If traffic can't use that route, what route should/can/will it use and what impact will that have?

I'm not surprised that none of you is willing to answer that question but it's a shame that it needs recourse to the Courts to make Keegan and DCC address it.

Page 42 or there abouts. 2nd March 2021. You were part of the discussion in case you forgot.

Shut down the West Link. It’s not needed any more by the sounds of it. Sure why would anyone use a Motorway designed for motor vehicles, and the Dublin Tunnel which was designed originally for HGV’s to take them out of the city.