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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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    #10412
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Are we coming out of the right side and we know lockdowns simply won't work again ?

    Talk of Variants has slowed down



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    #10413
    iguana
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690582#Comment_117690582

    That's 76% of adults. But only something like 60% of population. We have a huge population of under 16s and the Delta variant will most likely spread through them like wildfire when they get together again. There is a reason there are no indoor summer camps or indoor play areas open this summer, unlike last year. And it's not because NPHET hate kids or want to screw over small businesses. When schools reopen in September it's really very likely that Delta will spread so much that breakthrough cases in vaccinated adults increase. And we could see too many serious cases in the elderly and vulnerable, who were vaccinated 6-8 months before as their weaker immune systems mean lower vaccine efficacy against this strain. Nobody with good sense would think it was ok to reopen more places before we see what happens when schools open, as we head into winter. None of us enjoy having to wait and see, but we have to wait and see. Realistically the models show that we may need 90% uptake of vaccines across the entire population. That means kids as well as adults. So it's really very likely that we need to wait until the vaccine is approved for 5-12 year olds of even 2-12 year olds and then given to them before we can actually, safely reopen properly.



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    #10414
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690652#Comment_117690652

    And the good news vibe lasted less than an hour! There is no shock to anyone except you, who it seems is surprised the data is about over 16s. 12-15 seems to be about 270K and there is no consensus on what will be done about the under 12s. They are also the group least affected by COVD by far and viruses ripping through that age group is perfectly normal.

    Serious cases are very low, so hard to see where your huge numbers are going to come from.



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    #10415
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690713#Comment_117690713

    Certain people thrive on the doom and gloom, that’s why the good news vibe doesn’t last on these threads. The misinformation on these threads and making things as facts is hilarious .



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    #10416
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Absolutely fantastic to see young people queueing at vaccinating centres . Well done to them and to all involved



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    #10417
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690585#Comment_117690585

    Such a pathetic number . Surely at the end of August let it be a full house after the last 18 months


    It would be great .



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    #10418
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690344#Comment_117690344

    Is it 24000 per semi final or between ie 12000 a semi final



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    #10419
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690838#Comment_117690838

    24000 for each one



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    #10420
    dubdaymo
    Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭dubdaymo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690652#Comment_117690652

    "The Models"?, LOL. You mean the quack fortuneteller with his crystal ball going under the pompous title of "chairman of the Governments’ Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group".

    Extraordinary that anyone can believe they have the power to foretell the future but even more extraordinary that some people believe the nonsense they come up with.

    Micheál and Stephen are probably the last two holding out in awe. The rest have had enough. The "snake oil" statement (that belittled the other EU and equivalent CMO's) was the straw that broke the camel's back and finally proved that egomania was in play here...something that some of us here already knew.



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    #10421
    dubdaymo
    Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭dubdaymo


    double post



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    #10422
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690652#Comment_117690652


    Fair enough on what you say….I agree and disagree on some points…If what you say is correct then time to stop saying 76% fully vaccinated as it is somewhat misleading/not really relevant….If what you say is correct then we are only 60% and government should say so…Can’t have it both ways shall we say…



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    #10423
    MontgomeryClift
    Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭MontgomeryClift


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690567#Comment_117690567

    Now you're getting it. Maybe the penny will drop... eventually.



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    #10424
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    For those who care - 1098 new cases, 163 in hospital and 26 in ICU. All very stable looking.



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    #10425
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    I seem to remember the mythical herd immunity would be achieved around the 60% mark, now it’s 90+ never ending this shîte, protect the vulnerable surely they’re done now.

    I can see a VOC emerge over the coming weeks and months that surprise surprise is more dangerous to children , and round and round we go.

    holdfirm, in this together, the new normal, this is us.. makes me want to puke.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



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    #10426
    sgsdfsdfsd
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭sgsdfsdfsd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690789#Comment_117690789

    Well done? Really? They went and got a vaccine which is pretty much their moral duty as much as anyone else. And plenty others not paying any attention to public health measures compared to older people. But boo hoo, they've "lost" a year and a half. They have plenty more years to look forward to compared to plenty of older folks who might never get to do some things they might have planned.



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    #10427
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692069#Comment_117692069

    I hope they never put you in charge of the under 9s! Moral duty mar dhea!



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    #10428
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117689337#Comment_117689337

    No need for the aggressive tone and language.

    If you don't understand someone's post there are polite ways to ask but given your posting history I can see this apoears to be your style.

    Am happy to explain further if you ask nicely... Otherwise you can ..... ....

    Do you understand that?

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


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    #10429
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117689360#Comment_117689360

    Good for them.

    Their IT systems and data management are better funded and better staffed.

    Having worked there in the past and returned to a post here I remember noting the Irish system was at least 20 years behind

    Not in care or treatment just management, and data provision and gathering

    There is a lot that needs improvement for sure, but unfortunately playing catch up everywhere atm so it is down the list of priorities.

    AsI said those numbers will be available in more detail, probably at the end of all this though which is not good.

    Also they have been stressing for months now that the link between hospitalisation and deaths has been weakened, not broken as was thought initially, because of Delta.

    Also in house infections were 14 at last weeks HSE briefing.. Out of 160.

    So yes those figures at least have been and are being announced.. No misinformation or misleading there.



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    #10430
    Spiderman0081
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690652#Comment_117690652

    Jeez. I wouldn’t wish your mindset on anyone



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    #10431
    fun loving criminal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    I was in town for the first time in a long time and my first thought passing restaurants with outdoor dining was alot of chairs were back-to-back. So people seated very close to each other. Made me think is this a contributing factor to the increase of cases lately?



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    #10432
    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692069#Comment_117692069

    They are taking time out of their day to get a vaccine they don’t need for a virus that does not effect them. Fair play to all of them. And as I have said before it seems the old and vulnerable are very ungrateful for the sacrifices these young people have taken over the past year and a half including taking a vaccine that they do not need



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    #10433
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692455#Comment_117692455

    While I disagree with you on their " need " to get a vaccine , I agree on the sentiment . Fair play to them , they have had a sxxt year and a half , along with the rest of us , mind , but I think it is hard to be young and be so restricted .

    This is or will be a way out of that for most of them though .



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    #10434
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692069#Comment_117692069

    I am old , over 65 . I still have time to say well done to the young people who queued . We all know that the vaccine numbers dropped in every country the younger the cohort . I am proud of the young people who are civic minded and doing this for us all

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    #10435
    gral6
    Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭gral6


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692430#Comment_117692430

    My first thought was, if you would have stayed home instead of spreading Covid in town, you would not contribute to the increase of cases lately.



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    #10436
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692638#Comment_117692638

    Ahhhh be nice



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    #10437
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    How do you delete posts on this bloody site , does anyone know ?

    All I seem to be able to do is edit .



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    #10438
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692704#Comment_117692704

    I don't know, but if something doesn't change or improve soon, there'll be no user's left and it will be a permanent delete.



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    #10439
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    ah its not THAT bad



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    #10440
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692539#Comment_117692539

    They arent doing it for anyones good, they are doing it so they can get into pubs and restaurants and onto flights without having to pay for PCRs.

    There will be a massive exodus of young people out of this country,its starting already.

    I was told today teo hundred recently qualified Doctors are booked onto a flight to Australia, it costs eight thousand euros in total to go between flights, tests, quarantine and these people have got the money together.

    Many young people really dislike the elderly now,they feel their lives were put on hold and now that all the vulnerable are protected we tell young people they cant sit indoors for a meal.

    some bloody country to be young in.!!!!



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    #10441
    gral6
    Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭gral6


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117692902#Comment_117692902

    I would not pick Australia now, it is a highly restricted crap hole now.



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