Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Vaccinations make a massive difference to ICU admissions. They obviously aren't stopping everyone from getting infected but they're keeping them mostly out of the ICUs. That's a massive help in the fight against this - it turns it into something that might make the public more inclined to open back up.

For a number of reasons. One being that nobody knows how long immunity lasts, and there have been cases of people being reinfected. So even ignoring the large number of deaths attempting it you will still not achieve zero Covid. In other words,attempting to achieve it you would still have the problem some here are complaining about over vaccines and transmissions, but a lot more with serious illness and many more deaths.

Another is that, in Ireland for example, the number infected over the last 17 months is 6% of the population. Not only do we not know how many of those are still immune, we don`t how many have since being infected availed of a vaccine. With that 6% meaning very little as regards herd immunity, it highly likely that at this stage it is much less than 6%

Lifting of restrictions is a political decision and not a medical outcome though. Theoretically, you could have a vaccine that was so perfect that it stopped all infection and transmission but the government could still choose to implement restrictions regardless of that. The vaccine doesn't directly cause lockdowns.

What’s wrong with going out earlier?

Nothing wrong with it but it's not an option for some people who might like a few after work etc

With Florida I`m not sure it is due to lower vaccination levels. Florida is around the national average and only a few points lower than California.

A short time ago here some were making a point that restrictions were doing nothing to lower infections and subsequent deaths as there were no differences between both states in either even though Florida`s governor had lifted all restrictions.

There is presently a major difference in both infections and deaths so on the basis that you cannot have it both ways, the only explanation that makes sense to me is Florida`s lack of restrictions. Business in Florida seem to agree with that as some of the larger ones are telling visitors and staff to ignore DeSantis and go with the Federal advise.

Just need to find yourself a good lock in

No idea, but with just 8 deaths in Malta for the past 3 months, 1 in Gibraltar for the past 5 months and 1 for Iceland in the last 7 months then I would hazard a guess that whatever the are they believe the are working.

With Florida having the national average for vaccinations yet had an all time daily high for new cases a few days ago, and 408 death last week, if that is not due to the lack of restrictions then I do not know what is. Their tourist industry, a major employer and large contributor to federal, state and local taxes, appears to believe the same.

Really ?

Last time I checked face masks in California, unlike Florida, were still mandatory until at least 13th. Sepember on all public transport for both vaccinated and unvaccinated, and were also mandated for those unvaccinated in indoor public settings.

AS I have said in my last post, FAIK, face masks are still mandatory in Californis for everyone, vaccinated or not on public transport, and for unvaccinated in public settings, (bars etc.), unlike Florida with no restrictions case numbers and deaths are much lower. Florida reaching an all time daily high for case numbers just last week. Do you not think that perhaps there is an obvious corellation there ?

Or indeed between Germany and France`s dropping of restrictions attempting to open up early with low vaccination numbers that resulted in curfews and "hand brakes" needing to be applied, when nationally, even now months after some states dropped all restrictions, just 50% are fully vaccinated ?

I've taken the vaccine on the basis of them working and protecting the vulnerable at large, if I find fook all change in this prison life way of living before year end I will not be letting any more of it in to my body and advise people around me to do the same.