Australian Response

Frightening

Whats so frightening about unarmed army personal, under police command, assisting police to go door knocking to ensure people who have tested positive are isolating in accordance with the Sydney lockdown?

gral6's one line trolling would have you believe Australia is under martial law. Very far from it talking to people over there.

From Australia's perspective it is effectively March 2020 from a virus outbreak perspective, they haven't vaccinated enough to meaningfully reduce the transmission rates.

But time and knowledge has moved on. Covid is endemic. Even with high levels of vaccinations, there will be cases. As we've seen in Israel and Gibraltar. Will Australia live with any covid cases? If so, at what cost? If not, how many covid cases are acceptable? In fairness, I'm waiting on our government to decide this.

Effectively they have just delayed the misery?

Good. The amount of bats*** crazy that comes from that channel is surreal.

Why hospitalisation rate is so high in Australia? Are they trying to put everyone tested positive into hospital?

No, not necessarily.

The goal for all countries is basically the same; get the population vaccinated and, pending that, minimise infections, hospitalisations and deaths.

Australia has performed poorly at getting the population vaccinated, but extremely successfully at avoiding infections, hospitalisations and deaths. This is the reverse of countries like the UK and the US, who have performed well at vaccination, but poorly at avoiding infections, etc, in the meantime.

There's no fundamental reason why success in avoiding infections, etc, can't be sustained until vaccination is achieved. If that happens, Australia won't have just delayed the misery; it will have avoided it.

There is no guarantee that it will happen. But it has certainly happened so far, and it is worth continuing to target it. Any suggesion that, because Australia hasn't perfectly avoided infections, hospitalisations and deaths, it should therefore abandon attempts to do so while the population is still largely unvaccinated would be drivelling idiocy of the most spectacular kind.

Basically, Australia's failure to acheive rapid vaccination leaves it with no option but to continue doing what it has been doing up to now. Fortunately, what it has been doing up to now has worked extremely well.

Lol, no it doesn't. Your posts are entertaining if nothing else 🤪

Here in WA, we've done very well all things considered. Although, the hotel quarantine system should have been replaced by a proper facility a long time ago. I'm in my mid-30s and now fully vaxxed (Pfizer, had a terrible reaction to the second one) but unfortunately we're short on supply thanks to the failings of the federal government. The 80% target is optimistic given the amount of vaccine hesitancy, which is in large part caused by irresponsible reporting in the media, but that should change if the lockdowns continue and getting jabbed is seen as a way out.

No country has gotten their COVID strategy spot on but life has been pretty much normal in Perth for the last 18 months, and I'm grateful for that considering what friends and family in other parts of the world have gone through. Fingers crossed we'll be able to open up early next year.

New modelling suggest that Sydney needs even stricter controls ...

That does cut both ways. Some of the posters currently in Australia are quite happy to tell gral and others how it is or was in Ireland now and over the past 18 months. I think it's reasonable to assume, given the Australian travel restrictions, that most of those people don't have first hand experience of what things are like in Ireland and are reliant on media/friends/family for their perspective.

I would expect that a lot of people in Ireland following this thread, like me, did a stint in Aus/NZ at some time and are genuinely interested in what's happening there, as they would have been pre Covid.

Sure. And there's plenty of information out there about what is happening in Ireland, and what is happening in Australia. And there's no reason why people in one place shouldn't refer to what is happening in the other.

But there's a big difference between telling us that defence forces personnel are assisting in lockdown implementation in Sydney, and telling us that "Sydney looks like big open air concentration camp". That's just something that Gral6 made up and, if he's going to make up stuff and post it like that, he must expect others to point out that he just made it up and has no clue what he is talking about.

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Good luck with that!

No new cases in Victoria today while WA will have 140,000 Pfizer vaccines to distribute in a couple of weeks. Window opening again here for 30 to 39 year olds 👍️

I'm in Greece now with my family. No problem to get here, just an Antigen test at the border and 5 minutes later I was clear to go. To get here, we transitted through Macedonia. No problems there apart from a reluctance to accept a soft copy of a Green Card. Before that we were in Serbia for a couple of weeks; we got in there using the free PCRs we got (sans RDV) in France. On the way between France and Serbia, we overnighted in Germany and transitted Slovenia and Croatia. Our PCR test results to get us into France were available 4 hours after the test. We have not had to do any quarantining on the journey. PLFs are required for some countries, but they take at most 10 mins per person.