F1 2021 Round 11: Hungaroring

Why do they need atleast a litre of fuel at the end of the race?

I think it's so they can test the fuel after th race.

Any amount would not necessarily be enough. I don't know how the tests work, but I imagine they divide the sample into a few parts to do different tests. The rule about needing a full litre of fuel has been in for ages.

Did Vettel complete the in-lap? Sometimes they don't complete the in-lap to make sure they have fuel for testing.

This moves Williams further up. Amazingly lucky result for lots of drivers.

They say a loss of last is a symptom of long covid, seeing how he dresses, the signs were there all along.

Overtook them in the pit as Williams are the last pit crew

did they show that on c4

I got a good chuckle out of Hamiltons radio messages during all of that. Something about moving and it was very high speed...yeah, we know how that goes, Lewis.

Vettel seems to have been disqualified. Someone more technical here might explain why it's so important to get 1 litre of fuel as opposed to .33 of a litre.

Because that's what the rulebook says, basically. It's arbitrary but it is what it is, the rulebook and the FIA's application of penalties are wildly unfair at times but that's Formula 1.

Yep "cheeky" and "gamesmanship" are very powerful words to British sports commentators, they can be used to justify basically anything.

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Wow, everyone has the drivers they like and dislike for various reasons but that's a truly low level of posting.

He was clearly struggling to just get up onto the podium and it was commented on by several here how shattered he looked, in fact he needed Ocon to give him a hand to pull him up. It's known he has had Covid and it is known that many people suffer from long Covid. What's so hard to believe he is actually struggling with health after such a tough race!

That race was bloody phenomenal. The beginnings of it didn't look to be so promising at the start with Bottas making a hames of it at the start of the race. It was a mad race throught & it's finish near the end was like a fairytale that fell into place for Alpine. It was absolutely wonderful entertainment & I loved every bit of it. Alonso was outstanding today to keep ahead of Hamilton for most of the race. He produced some wonderful driving on the track today against Hamilton who was moaning silly things about rules on the radio that were simply commonplace in F1 from years ago. It's sort of like repeating an age old mantra that age does not get beaten with experience. Alonso showed us that his experience out there really counted on the track today. It was a defining moment that gave Alpine the destiny in allowing Ocon to win the race.

Although we are in post-race mode for several hours now; it has given us some unusual outcomes in how things stand at the moment with Vettel's DQ decision from the stewards being appealed to the FIA over his apparent fuel sample issue in his car. In this scenario that's occurring with Vettel at the moment; my heart & head are saying right now that Vettel should not lose his podium because he deserves to keep it after putting in a great shift out on the track today. The fuel sample issue should be investigated thoroughly if the FIA had apparently put in faulty equipment to check the fuel sample after the race was won by Ocon. If the appeal on the fuel sample goes against Vettel; I would be gutted.

I would say that Vettel's overall performance in Aston Martin has not been that bad so far after he moved on from his final year at Ferrari.

He won a P2 podium in Baku this year after Perez won that race when Hamilton messed up the final grid start in the final 2 laps. This ability from Vettel tells me that he has the potential & the ability from within himself to actually win podiums in his car which was provided by Aston Martin which does count as a good thing to increase his morale while he is with the team. The car has not been too great sometimes while it has done the qualifying sessions. However the car has been giving some decent points finishes in a lot of the races this season when they are given out during the race day especially when he had that great performance in winning decent points being 5th at Monaco.

It would be a real shame for the season, but some of those symptoms sound like they could be potentially dangerous to have on track - so if he does have it, it might be best to take an extended break.

Hopefully he doesn't have it and the couple of weeks off does him good.

Aston Martin seems to have struggled the most with the change to the floors this season, they've gone from competing with mclaren and Ferarri for p3 in the constructors to competing with alpha tauri and alpine for p5. Would have been interesting to see vettel in a truly competitive car like they had last year, but he does seem to be in the right place right time this season like Baku and Hungary which is ultimately why he was brought in. Do hope Aston Martin can appeal his DQ successfully but I don't see how they can magic another 700mls of fuel out of thin air. Stroll is struggling a bit this season.

Hamilton is a compulsive liar, all he's done is said he "might" have long covid to the British media who have lapped it up. No doctor has diagnosed him with anything and he was happily bouncing around after winning the previous race by putting his competitor in hospital. Long covid doesn't suddenly appear 9 months later, coincidentally on a day when you performed poorly and had to do a bit of work for once.

He's just milking it and making excuses, maybe since covid impacts your sense of taste and smell it also impacts your ability to identify a dry track that was blatantly obvious to every other driver on the grid.

Unfortunately that poster always brings so much toxicity to every thread, there's no point wasting time responding to the disgusting abuse they keep throwing out.