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Electric Picnic 2021 - Cancelled :( **No Ticket Sales / Requests **

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    I’ve been told that someone who works in merch for festivals - including EP, reckons it’s not happening. Take that for whatever it’s worth. I’m keeping the faith, but not very optimistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    They will yeah, same as 2020.

    There isnt a hope in hell this is going ahead btw. Literally not a 1% chance theres 70,000 people congregating together in 52 days. Everyone should make different plans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭davywalsh7


    Spoke to them around the announcement of the new date change and they believed that it’s not happening. Haven’t been speaking to them about it since.

    things change so fast with covid I guess maybe there’s still hope. Hard to imagine government givin us the go ahead to have 70k in a field within the next 7 weeks or so though



  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭properbo


    I'm fully vaccinated anyway. Still going ahead is what I'm been told We may just wait and see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Those Romanian vaccines are en route. 700k doses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    What a confused mess we are. I'd say this thread is the only place in the country outside musicians and crew that are still hoping this goes ahead. Anyway, there's always the music, lads. I've spent the day painting to Les Savy Fav (ta to the Primavera thread), Prefab Sprout and Suede. Which was lovely. Chin up, people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,375 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I think it's a shame that they're treating people a bit like the Garth Brooks gig at this stage (albeit it's not the promoters fault here).

    Having worked on licensing and safety plans in the past though, I would say there's less than a 10% chance now that EP will go ahead this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Things are just not adding up

    Were ahead of the UK on vaccinations but there they have almost got rid of all there covid restrictions and us here still been frustrating ultra cautious

    Why aren't journalists here asking the hard questions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    As of Monday, security and logistics companies had an SOP with regards a full capacity festival, it's likely to barely break even with the additional measures and the extra bodies needed to make it work, but festival republic are convinced it's going ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    LOL

    "not adding up", "asking the hard questions"

    Calm down Bob Woodward 🙄

    They got rid of restrictions and their hospitalisations have increased 600% in 2 months.

    And we've gotten rid of almost all the same restrictions now too. Luckily we delayed doing it a few more weeks and that's probably why ours didn't increase significantly like theirs.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Was listening to Radio 1 on the way home from the train station and they had local FF and FG TD's from Laois talking about whats going on with regards to EP.

    Have to say it made me angry in the way they were talking about the whole EP situation, so there might be a rant coming from me now ha so I apologise if I offend anyone. BTW I totally understand that with Covid nothing is easy and there will always be a level of uncertainty as we look ahead, but at the same I feel we need to start moving on with life and learning to live with Covid. The events sector is literally on its knees and has been since they closed up nearly 500 days ago, there was never a proper reopening plan.

    During the interview on Radio 1, the FF TD said we should wait till January time before opening large events due to the delta variant as it is not the right time to open (But when will the right time be?) which means remaining more cautious at the expense of the events industry. They were asked people can pop over the border to the Belsonic gigs in Belfast to enjoy larger outdoor events which the FF TD replied oh but they are different because they are sit down events (think he needs to look up Belsonic). The most annyoying part was that they were asked if Catherine Martin gave the go ahead what would Laois council be happy with and the FG TD replied if they went back to the 5-10k capacity of the eariler EP days for 2021 with a fully Irish line up which is not viable for FR/MCD because of money that will need to be refunded.

    Overall they are clearly very against EP going ahead in 2021 because of what happened in Feb when they had an outbreak in a nursing home which of course was very sad to lose people, but since Feb and up until the end of Sept we will definitely be at least 90% of the population will be fully vaccinated so we are in a completely different zone of protection. I think they did mention that the planning permission decision could be decided by the end of this week. If you look at the UK who are due to run R&L/IOW/Transmit around the same time seem to be going ahead anyways so its time we kinda caught up with them in that sense. Part of me would love Benn to up and leave Stradbally next year and move to another location in Ireland if it isnt allowed (That could just be me being petty ha).

    Thank you for coming to my Ted talk/ word vomit rant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    In terms of making different plans it's not like we're putting off Caribbean trips or dates with the cast of Gossip Girl to head to Stradbally. If we're not there we'll be cutting our toenails, supping IPA and watching Netflix all weekend.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Carmelo Fancy Logger


    coincidentally….Dan from gossip girl played at ep at body and soul main stage a few years ago. Was really good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    You have to hand it to them, they're working their asses off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    They've gotten rid of all their restrictions as a political stunt to mask the damage that they've done to their economy and as a distraction from the shag bag of custards complete and utter corrupt mishandling of the pandemic. It's not because it's actually safe yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Next few weeks will be crucial



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    He's going to counter with "what about Scotland?" And ignore the fact that they rode out the delta wave before lifting restrictions, which is almost exactly what we're doing.


    I don't want to be all "I know something you don't know" but behind the scenes September is being lined up as a very important month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    52 sleeps, the time unit convention here is sleeps. It has always been sleeps and will only ever be sleeps.

    kthxbai



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    It like a see saw isn't it, fcuk knows, I want this so much to go ahead, if it does it will make up some what for the lack of gigs the last 15 months. Thank god for buskers and busking in Galway, live music is great for sanity. I dreaming of the next photo opportunity with fellow boardsies as I missed the last one.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    I must say I'm disappointed by rte in recent times, as blind boy pointed out every "debate" is planned for a 5-6 min duration, they'll usually pick massively opposing sides, 1 being a government rep and the other a slightly crazy opposer, throw a hand grenade in and let them have almost a personal argument rather than a factual informed debate. 5 min with a break inbetween, the debate will run out of time. The "winner" will be the slippiest fcuk rather than the most factual and practical. We the public are none the wiser about the actual issue.


    Honestly what is going to change between end of September and Jan??


    As much as I love the location I completely agree about moving venue.


    I think there significance around the timing of the below, must be a decision by end of week?

    https://www.facebook.com/85480429167/posts/10159449421059168/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    And ironically we've even got the anti-vaxxers against us now, the one group who are all up for opening everything. #FeelingPersecuted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    I fear not. I was talking to a guy who interviewed Martin, the brother, for a podcast recently. Lovely fella by all accounts, very open and willing to chat about life in the band but told him to forget about getting hold of Paddy. What a band, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    We're only (slightly) ahead on adults fully vaccinated. We're behind both on the percentage of the full population having the first dose and full population fully vaccinated. At our pace we will soon pass the UK on both I believe but the timeline is very tight. Were the authorities to have walk-in centres open seven days a week in multiple locations alongside the stadia/racecourse appointments then it would look very good indeed at the end of this month when final decisions have to be made.

    Speaking out of ignorance without any experience of festival logistics i think that EP can be put on with four weeks notice. Scaling back acts, stages and some food outlets won't make much difference to us attendees. Latitude was given four weeks notice (25 June to 22 July) and FR have everything ready to go for this. I'm not optimistic but it's all in place.

    And a very random question in terms of change of venue. Could EP be put on as a non-camping festival in, say, Phoenix Park with 2/3 stages? The logistics people for FR could handle it, and at a guess (possibly 30k attendees from the city) we're only talking 40k extra people in a metropolis of 1.9m. Were it to be another government test event then licences could be swiftly dealt with. After that the way is cleared for other events. But as is obvious there needs to be some will......

    Post edited by Seathrun66 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    What a band indeed. Paddy just saunters around Durham with a Tom Wolfe white suit, cane and pre-hipster Gandalf beard. Avoids the media, stage and recording studios which is a big loss. But we got Green & Scritti back so I have a little hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I agree with all of that bar Benn upping sticks. It's pretty certain that you'd find objections to festivals going ahead in every last corner of the planet (pre and mid-Covid) and the same goes for poorly researched politicians. It's not asking too much for cleverer journalists to have done their homework and put said people on the spot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    It would be interesting to see if indeed a big scale back of the festival was put in place,I mean there was going to be extra grounds ,stages put up for the 70k capacity,how that is going to be addressed is another thing. I see the festival that the Dutch government pulled the plug on remaining outdoor venues ,had a capacity I think of 25k over two days (Utreacht). There was the covid passes/certs check in place.Covid positive case figures were under 1,100 but even the organisers couldn’t confirm if all those cases occurred at the festival…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    As least expected responses go Rfip, yours is up there....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Doubt it, he's dealing with effects of Ménièrs which is nasty, it has recently fucked over Huey Lewis who cannot perform or sing* live anymore either. My mam had a very mild form of it for years.


    *Insert what ever joke you want about "he couldn't sing anyway" etc but it must be pretty horrific to have the only thing you do being snatched away from you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    if i was the promoter i would be whispering in Ballinlough Castle ear , the venue for body and soul and see would they be up for a scaled back EP. It would certainly rattle Laois county council that they would lose EP altogether



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    It sounds horrible. A Hungarian pal has it and she hasn't been able to travel on planes or trains for two years. Helpfully, that coincided with Covid-19.

    In terms of PS it's a pity there's not going to be an opportunity to let them know how significant they were. And how brilliant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Naw, wouldn't like that, its like having Lisdoonvarna festival or Feile in Dublin, what's the point, the Picnic will always be a camping festival with after hours twilight fun, wouldn't change it for anything. If that was going to happen it might as well be cancelled outright and start making plans for next year and unleash a 2022 lineup poster. If I was in the government would fire all the media heads in RTE and hire better journalists that can give more honest and transparent news.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    Agree, camping offers a huge amount of flexibility and freedom, wouldn't work without in my view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I agree, a random question from me. And should it not happen BD, let's drown our EP sorrows over a few pints outside The Crane. And raise a toast to the Salty Dog crew.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    Why are we still pretending as though it's last summer and 70 people are dying each day with no sign of let up and no vaccine in sight? These vaccines have been a sheer bloody miracle and they are EXTREMELY effective as far as vaccines go.

    The 7-day daily average of deaths has essentially been between 2 and 0 since the 18th of May. That's 77 days. Why are we pretending that COVID is still a great danger to the Irish population? Comparatively it just isn't. 24 people die from cancer in this country each day. There are many things more likely to kill you than COVID in Ireland at the moment.

    People are acting as though Delta is some game changer. It's more transmissible to the unvaccinated so it's lead to a case spike. That's it. Our death rates have been unaffected and there's no evidence that the vaccine is any less effective against it.

    Just get back to normal and stop milking this thing. Have the festival. The vaccines are widely available to whoever want them so I don't even know why this is a public health issue anymore. If you're worried about COVID killing you, get the vaccine. If you don't get it, that's on you. People who aren't worried about being killed by COVID are getting the vaccine in large numbers because they want to put this pandemic to rest. We're on track to have 80% of our adults vaccinated by the time EP is due to take place.

    And the County Councillor from Stradbally Paschal McEvoy on the radio playing up how "petrified" his constituents are. I'm sure he knows this is winning issue for him on the political front. "Brave local politician saving his people from the evil miser Melvin Benn who wants to genocide the town with COVID to line his pockets". If he's ignorant of these facts he needs to educate himself. Worse if he knows these facts, he needs to explain to his constituents why they are wrong. Why things are different now and why they have no reason to be "petrified".


    There's something very perverse going on when we are still restricting the lives of 5 million people because 1 person a week is dying from a virus for which many highly effective vaccines are available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    I was at the Lisdoonvarna festival in Dublin at the RDS,although foot and mouth did play a role in staging!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Sounds like a great idea Seath, would be up for it.😊

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Will the Chemical Brothers be retained for the Saturday Night closer they were on the 2020 poster weren't they and they played Latitude so probably still around the UK anyway, maybe the Pixies could be nabbed from EOTR but then again that's on the traditional EP dates.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Foot and mouth? Wasn't an issue in 2003, is there a joke here I'm possibly not getting!?



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    There was objections putting it in Clare, cant remember why



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Oh i meant that if Laois are so against it this year and it gets cancelled, then from 2022 to look at a new location.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    When will it be safe? It's summer and nearly all adults are vaccinated. It's worked so far for them. If it's not safe to open then when will it be in reality? Covid isn't just going to disappear



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Im not sure you are going to get a response from a anyone who is qualified to answer this, but Im pretty sure no one knows the answer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    Actually scarily enough it was 2001 when the foot and mouth broke out,yeah the festival was rescheduled into the RDS for health and safety



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    Their hospitalisations are up 600% in 2 months.

    Their death rate is up 600% in 2 months (and rising).

    That's a strange definition of "It's worked so far for them".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Cases dropping like a stone over the last 3 weeks, after an initial upswing from opening up. Vaccines appear to be working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    Yes, after an enormous surge throughout June/July almost reaching January levels. Yet another example of how they got it badly wrong by dropping restrictions too early.

    Vaccines working is the one saving grace from the UK being a complete and utter sh1tshow now, rather than the minor shambles it is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Blackie_IRL


    This is where I'm at now, i've supported all the decisions to date, I'm fully vaxed, as is my wife, and my 16 year old son is getting his 1st jab today. We've complied with all the restrictions, but the unspoken agreement, in my mind, was a return to normality when the vaccine program took hold. There is no logical reason to continue restrictions beyond the end of august, once schools are back, everything needs to open back up, including mass gatherings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Highly unlikely. I'd guess that businesses in Laois want it to go ahead and large proportion of the townspeople of Stradbally. In 2017 the ITs assessed the worth to the town as circa €16m. If it doesn't go ahead the locals shouldn't be punished for that. The people there have understandable worries and seven weeks isn't a long time away. I hope it proceeds but a lot of things have to fall into place over the next three weeks for that to happen.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/electric-picnic-contributed-36m-to-ireland-s-economy-1.3016462



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