Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Conjecture. All evidence still supports what M32 said

I'm confused, how can it not be goalpost moving? We will open up indoor dining on July 5th, oh actually it will be July 19th and you'll now also need to use a vaccine cert to eat inside.

(Dates could be wrong as I honestly can't remember anymore)

Total misinformation. Maybe do some research before you spout gibberish?

The reality is that there is no country with a solid roadmap for full reopening.

The UK might have dropped legal restrictions, but they still have considerable health guidance in place, as well as travel restrictions, and they're still progressing along their own roadmap - which doesn't give any date or indication as to when it will be retired. They were also flagging the possibility for needing to bring back masks and distancing in the Autumn.

There is no fixed point of, "When we get here, it is over", because every previous attempt to do so has failed miserably; in every country. And because these things develop organically, they progress little by little, they don't just switch on and off overnight. You can declare it finished one day and three weeks later you're getting your ass kicked.

Czech Republic held a huge symbolic celebration last July for the "end of the pandemic", thinking they had it beaten. 3 months later they had the worst infection rates in Europe.

Similarly we all watched with envy while Kiwis jumped up and down celebrating the end of lockdown in June 2020. Two months later, they were back into it.

I'm not making commentary about who has done better or worse, merely that the best laid plans are scuppered by this.

In the same way that by the time you realise your country is experiencing a new wave, you're already two weeks into it; by the time we come to understand the emergency to be "over", we will have been well out of the woods for a couple of weeks, just waiting for confirmation that it is so.

Whilst I think @seamus makes some good points about best laid plans, there are some areas of policy which unarguably benefit from well-planned advance messaging.

Prime example: the requirement for vaccination certs to access certain indoor activities.

Whilst there is a case to be made that the govt were blindsided by the Delta surge, this isn't the case any more, and they should be announcing now that in six weeks bars and clubs will be fully open with bar service, normal meatsack density and regular hours to those who have been fully vaccinated. Same for normal capacity wedding receptions with loud music and dancing.

That would give the vaccine-lethargic plenty of notice to get fully vaccinated ahead of the re-opening.

Compare this to the UK where they announced the same measures would be phased in weeks after re-opening. That's a different kind of stupid.

(I'm not making the case for compulsory vaccination for clubbers or wedding guests being reasonable, I'm just making the point that the government is missing opportunities to execute a conservative plan).

I know how you feel. I live in Sweden.

Every so often a story like this shows up. Very sad for his family

Still lots of unknowns about the virus.

I just shared a link. Each to their own.

1,314 new confirmed cases.

As of 8am today, 187 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 30 are in ICU.

have it now, got it in trabolgan the weekend. cesspit, dont get me started.

wife didnt get it, neither did 8 year old, just me and the 5 year old.

like a mild flu or bad cold. still eating like normal etc, drove 3.5 hours home from cork unawares. drank through it not realising.

5 year old hasnt a bother on him, very slight cough.

the other family of 4 we were staying in a house with all tested negative also. go figure.

sat was worst day, and i honestly just put it down to a bad 2 day hangover.

1,314* confirmed cases of #COVID19.

As of 8am today, 187 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 30 are in ICU.

There has been a total of 5,044 deaths related to #COVID19.

Yeah. Would like to see who is behind that particular report.

Sounds like veering towards an anti medical agenda and absolving a weak government for being... well, weak!

Never mind the fact that Trinity Law, the home of people like Prof William Binchy, not exactly representative of views of most balanced in society.

Exactly.

None of us have seen this report which is mentioned in what I would call a rag, through all the misreporting they have engaged in with some disgraceful journos on board.

Who commissioned this report?

Who are these experts in law?

What are their backgrounds politically and professionally, and do they have a vested interest in the results of this " report"?

Just anti medic shill until we know otherwise.

Lots of mild asthmatics out there who would not be up to climbing mountains, but go on with the " sure he had asthma" rhetoric!

And this info from Piers Morgan, how reliable 🙄