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Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

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  • #4502
    Rossvet
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Rossvet


    Sorry David��


  • #4503
    cms88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭cms88


    Rossvet wrote: »
    13 or 14 played Senior at some stage with Carty, Devaney, Donie, Higgins, Fintan, O'Gara having good innings.
    Ormsby and Domican cut short their careers by going abroad.

    Did the captain, Flynn wasn't it?, play much after? Was he the same club as Shine?

    Also i have it in my head the keeper also played hurling? Might have won an U21 B after beating Kerry as well?


  • #4504
    Rossvet
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Rossvet


    David Flynn got a few senior games but didn't make it after. Yep he's Clann na nGael like Donie.
    Miley played some games at Senior but wasn't a success shall we day. Played U21 hurling for Ros right enough.
    Was that hurling game v Kerry in Thurles??


  • #4505
    cms88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭cms88


    Rossvet wrote: »
    David Flynn got a few senior games but didn't make it after. Yep he's Clann na nGael like Donie.
    Miley played some games at Senior but wasn't a success shall we day. Played U21 hurling for Ros right enough.
    Was that hurling game v Kerry in Thurles??

    I think it might have been. Not sure if it was 2007 or 2008. Did he ever play any more hurling after?


  • #4506
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    rn wrote: »
    I imagine clanns eventual crushing of brigids iron grip on roscommon SFC was a highlight of his career that came late on. He was instrumental to ending clanns drought.
    https://youtu.be/_lDQA4saWfU

    Fair point - I was more talking about in county colours, which I should have specified. It probably wouldn't be unfair to suggest that that club title in 2015 possibly meant the most to him.


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  • #4507
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Terrific score against the wind



  • #4508
    ShamoBuc
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    FYI a Feedback Thread has been opened.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058149601

    Please read the Opening Post before posting.

    Any opinions or thoughts in general are welcome.


  • #4509
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Having seen the team picked for the Dubs match I have to say I'm a little pessimistic.

    The forwards (well 5 of them) look ok, but the full back line looks iffy to say the least especially when you see the full forward line they're up against.

    Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but more than anything I want to see a gutsy effort where the team are actually trying their damnest to win, unlike that insipid 'performance' against a very inexperienced Mayo team.


  • #4510
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Whats the story on Sean Mullooley? Is he injured?


  • #4511
    blowitupref
    Registered Users Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    megadodge wrote: »
    Having seen the team picked for the Dubs match I have to say I'm a little pessimistic.

    The forwards (well 5 of them) look ok, but the full back line looks iffy to say the least especially when you see the full forward line they're up against.

    Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but more than anything I want to see a gutsy effort where the team are actually trying their damnest to win, unlike that insipid 'performance' against a very inexperienced Mayo team.

    Insipid performance yes though I don't think I'd call a Mayo team that included D Clarke, P Durcan, L Keegan, C Barrett, D O Connor, K McLoughlin, C O’Connor and A O’Shea as very inexperienced.


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  • #4512
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Think we will be smashed tomorrow unfortunately. Dublin have a ridiculously strong side out. Have been training for the last god knows how long before they got caught. We weren't training and adhered to the rules but I think we were one of a small number who didnt and are at a disadvantage to most for playing by the rules.

    On the team we have selected I have massive worries,managements hands were tied with so many injured but its weak in my opinion. Full back line could have a long day. Patterson imo is a good squad player but not up to standard to be starting games from what I have seen. Really hope he sticks it to me and proves me wrong. Lennon I have never seen or heard of playing full back. Both corner backs are extremely small.
    Massive servant down the years and one of our all time greats but Cregg is getting on now and had a stinker last year against Mayo. Kilroy works like a dog but the tactic of playing him and letting him sweep has run its course. Mist be 4 or 5 years now at it. So predictable. Nolan been thrown into lions den but I hear he is in on merit.


  • #4513
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    You won't hear mention in any media about the Dubs training since the new year and other counties actually adhering to the guidelines


  • #4514
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Insipid performance yes though I don't think I'd call a Mayo team that included D Clarke, P Durcan, L Keegan, C Barrett, D O Connor, K McLoughlin, C O’Connor and A O’Shea as very inexperienced.

    Ok, in fairness there were a number of experienced players on it, but there were quite a number of them having their first proper championship game and on the day they looked very beatable.

    If that was the Mayo team of a few years earlier, Roscommon would have been hammered in one of those pathetic performances Roscommon only seem to reserve for Mayo.

    I honestly still don't understand that performance from an experienced team with no injuries having played quite well in their two last league games. Compare that to Cavan who were comfortably beaten by half a Roscommon team in that last league game. They won Ulster on pure willpower and desire. Why can't Roscommon do the same?


  • #4515
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    The forwards are playing well, making space, showing for the ball and taking the bulk of their chances. The backs are struggling though. Not really surprised.

    Pity Diarmuid missed that sitter.

    Ros are simply letting Dublin take short kickouts all the time. Why? Giving a team like that the ball every time doesn't make sense.


  • #4516
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    megadodge wrote: »
    The forwards are playing well, making space, showing for the ball and taking the bulk of their chances. The backs are struggling though. Not really surprised.

    Pity Diarmuid missed that sitter.

    Ros are simply letting Dublin take short kickouts all the time. Why? Giving a team like that the ball every time doesn't make sense.

    Yeah worth pushing up on kick outs when playing with a wind like that.
    Going to be a long second half, poor Lavin has an awful job in front of him on his kick outs, no options when Dublin go full press. Surely it's something that could have been worked on, it's not a new thing.


  • #4517
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    A loss is a loss, but all things considered that wasn't too bad.

    Up until the last 10 minutes the defense improved dramatically from the first half. Far more aggressive (legitimately) and better support play.

    Great to see Ciaran Murtagh back and he played very well. As consistent and hard-working as ever.

    Still don't understand letting Dublin have possession on every single one of their own kickouts. It makes zero sense.


  • #4518
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Considering Roscommon have had 2 weeks of training and Dublin been going at it for months it wasn't too bad overall.

    The referee was awful too obviously, has there ever been 3 penalties to one team in a game?

    Glaring issues still though. Killoran not a midfielder, Lennon not a full-back, Lavin gifting Dublin possession time and time again. Enda Smith anonymous for too much of the game and Roscommons insistence on kicking it into the corner for him to chase was downright baffling.

    Donie, Ciarán looked lively. Murray and Niall Daly played well.


  • #4519
    RoscommonTom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    the ref now giving them every advantage going at this stage, its a complete joke and its only getting worse, only for the ref itd have been a close game, important now that we beat the galways on Sunday, the can't be as bad they were last week,


  • #4520
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,832 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    RoscommonTom wrote: »
    Not alone are they giving the jacks millons of pounds but the ref now giving them every advantage going at this stage, its a complete joke and its only getting worse, only for the ref itd have been a close game, important now that we beat the galways on Sunday, the can't be as bad they were last week,


    Not too keen on that rule myself but it's there now plus there's no denying that the three of them weren't warranted as per the ruling. It wouldn't have been a close game either as Dublin only scored 1.1 from a possible 3.0.


  • #4521
    Always_Running
    Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Not too keen on that rule myself but it's there now plus there's no denying that the three of them weren't warranted as per the ruling. It wouldn't have been a close game either as Dublin only scored 1.1 from a possible 3.0.
    Can debate if any of 3 were warranted.

    1st one was it a clear goal scoring opportunity and was it a clinical foul or a tangle of legs?

    2nd one no way was that a clear goal scoring opportunity

    3rd not sure why a the ref called a foot block on that one.


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  • #4522
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    We pass the ball across the pitch too much and don't transfer the ball quick enough in forwards to create space for a score


  • #4523
    Rossvet
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Rossvet


    That's a major failing alright.


  • #4524
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Given what was at stake that was a really worrying insipid performance again today.

    After 4-5 years of over achievement for a small county population wise and in terms of playing pool to pick from are we now in real decline? Or is it a knock on from lack of collective training?

    Not much time to get things corrected for Galway in championship...


  • #4525
    rn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rn


    We'll go into decline if we reflect negatively on today. And throw everything out. Unfortunately that's football. We're still at the top 8-16 group of counties. I think the lack of training plus league format was a disaster for a building county like us. You can see from the semi that the other group was closer and better for preparing a team for the likes of our game today. Would not be confident for Galway game at all. Galway will be bitterly disappointed after that loss today, where they did a lot right.


  • #4526
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    rn wrote: »
    We'll go into decline if we reflect negatively on today. And throw everything out. Unfortunately that's football. We're still at the top 8-16 group of counties. I think the lack of training plus league format was a disaster for a building county like us. You can see from the semi that the other group was closer and better for preparing a team for the likes of our game today. Would not be confident for Galway game at all. Galway will be bitterly disappointed after that loss today, where they did a lot right.


    Any team that wants to make any progress must have system in place and decent to solid structure in defence. Roscommon seemed to have that in year 1 under Cunningham but since then have lost their way, maybe the pandemic has halted that progress but its hard to see Roscommon recovering with the championship just a few weeks away.


  • #4527
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    Any team that wants to make any progress must have system in place and decent to solid structure in defence. Roscommon seemed to have that in year 1 under Cunningham but since then have lost their way, maybe the pandemic has halted that progress but its hard to see Roscommon recovering with the championship just a few weeks away.
    Our problem today was less with defence (without the ball) than it was in attack (without it).
    We gave away heaps of scores directly from when we had decent possession, either stupid turnovers or kicking stupid aimless kicks into the goalies hands,at least 1-5 I'd be guessing directly from having the ball, and probably more.

    Defence won many tackles in the first say 45 minutes, but we lost the ball then going forward. No defence can keep that up for a full game. Our much vaunted star forwards have not progressed, we have no attacking strategy or framework, sideways, slow, pedestrian, passive possession is where the problem lies. Defence isn't perfect, but that's not the main problem.


  • #4528
    RoscommonTom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    we're to good for division 2 and not good enough for division 1, i wouldnt be surprised if we came back up again next year,


  • #4529
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    theoneeyedman wrote: »
    Our problem today was less with defence (without the ball) than it was in attack (without it).
    We gave away heaps of scores directly from when we had decent possession, either stupid turnovers or kicking stupid aimless kicks into the goalies hands,at least 1-5 I'd be guessing directly from having the ball, and probably more.

    Defence won many tackles in the first say 45 minutes, but we lost the ball then going forward. No defence can keep that up for a full game. Our much vaunted star forwards have not progressed, we have no attacking strategy or framework, sideways, slow, pedestrian, passive possession is where the problem lies. Defence isn't perfect, but that's not the main problem.

    That's where the structure in defence comes in. Once you lose or gift possession you have to be set up correctly to make sure no easy scores are conceded. Armagh had a strong structure in place that made sure no soft goals would be conceded they simply learnt a lot from their defeat to Roscommon last October when they conceded 3 goals that basically cost them in a match they had control of.


  • #4530
    Always_Running
    Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    RoscommonTom wrote: »
    we're to good for division 2 and not good enough for division 1, i wouldnt be surprised if we came back up again next year,

    What Div 2 team would that Roscommon beat with that performance today?


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  • #4531
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    That's where the structure in defence comes in. Once you lose or gift possession you have to be set up correctly to make sure no easy scores are conceded. Armagh had a strong structure in place that made sure no soft goals would be conceded they simply learnt a lot from their defeat to Roscommon last October when they conceded 3 goals that basically cost them in a match they had control of.


    6 points in the last hour + played today!

    There are some problems in defence, but this is pathetic. We had lots of ball, but did SFA with it, no creativity at all. Attacks kept breaking down, the sheer volumes of counter attacks we faced was more a problem than how we reacted to them.

    The game plan is 5 years out of date, forwards have not improved and have no cohesion or team play when we have the ball, just hope Donie or Duirmuid or Ciaran or Enda conjure up a bit of magic.


  • #4532
    blowitupref
    Registered Users Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    theoneeyedman wrote: »
    6 points in the last hour + played today!

    There are some problems in defence, but this is pathetic. We had lots of ball, but did SFA with it, no creativity at all. Attacks kept breaking down, the sheer volumes of counter attacks we faced was more a problem than how we reacted to them.

    The game plan is 5 years out of date, forwards have not improved and have no cohesion or team play when we have the ball, just hope Donie or Duirmuid or Ciaran or Enda conjure up a bit of magic.

    Was too much probing by Roscommon with the ball in hand looking to create goal scoring chances. Armagh when they didn't have the ball had all 15 players fully focused on defending and tackled in pairs and attacked at pace the very opposite of Roscommon. I'm sure even Armagh were left surprised by how comfortable they won that match.


  • #4533
    Rossvet
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Rossvet


    Not a good day at the office at all.
    Will AC opt for major surgery for Galway game as he's nothing to lose while putting out the same forwards again would be unforgiveable.
    Up to this League the 2 Smiths, 2 Murtaghs and Cox were nearly shoo ins but not now.


  • #4534
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    A week away from the Connacht game, and I'm hearing a maximum 400 people being allowed to attend - fvckin ridiculous.

    The Geals should open the bar and sell pints, then let whoever buys them 'wander' off to drink them outside!


  • #4535
    rn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rn


    I was at the junior a game on Friday, where only 200 were allowed. What I saw was people get it very hard to social distance, especially on way into and out of the ground. People just meet friends and want to chat.

    Would be safer to have no crowd or only vaccinated people.


  • #4536
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,562 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    theoneeyedman wrote: »
    A week away from the Connacht game, and I'm hearing a maximum 400 people being allowed to attend - fvckin ridiculous.

    The Geals should open the bar and sell pints, then let whoever buys them 'wander' off to drink them outside!

    It's a 1000 altogether so I suppose be about 900 supportors.


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  • #4537
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    yabadabado wrote: »
    It's a 1000 altogether so I suppose be about 900 supportors.

    That's what I'd originally heard, hope it's more accurate than the second figure I quoted earlier.

    @rn what you're talking about is more a societal issue than a gaa or event specific one, walk down the street and you'll see people mixing as you describe. I've no intention of hijacking or sidetracking this thread into another covid related one, there are enough of them, and the pontificating around Covid is a big reason why I left another Rossie related forum a while ago, so apologies for getting sidetracked.

    Any team/fitness news? Ronan Daly was the only doubt I've heard about o. The papers last week.


  • #4538
    degzs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭degzs


    Very low key buildup which may suit us and Galway are red hot favorites with the bookies


  • #4539
    Rossvet
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Rossvet


    degzs wrote: »
    Very low key buildup which may suit us and Galway are red hot favorites with the bookies

    Hopefully the Galway players think so too!
    We need to hit the ground running like Salthill 2017 and hopefully the lads will have regained their zest for the game.
    Otherwise the bookies will be more than vindicated 😥


  • #4540
    rn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rn


    Sad news in GAA circles today. Great clubman and known across the county. RIP Ray.
    https://clanngaa.ie/news/9-news/51-ray-fallon-rip


  • #4541
    blowitupref
    Registered Users Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Roscommon starting team and subs for Sunday.

    Colm Lavin - Eire Og
    David Murray - Padraig Pearses
    Brian Stack - St Brigids
    Conor Daly - Padraig Pearses
    Niall Daly - Padraig Pearses
    Conor Hussey - Mícheal Glaveys
    Sean Mullooly - Strokestown
    Enda Smith - Boyle
    Eddie Nolan - St Brigids
    Niall Kilroy - Fuerty
    Ciaran Murtagh - St Faithleachs
    Shane Killoran - Elphin
    Diarmuid Murtagh - St Faithleachs
    Donie Smith - Boyle
    Conor Cox - Eire Og

    Subs : Patrick O Malley, David Neary, Fergal Lennon, Richard Hughes, Ronan Daly, Tadgh O Rourke, Cathal Cregg, Cian McKeon, Conor Devaney, Ciaran Lennon, Ultan Harney.


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  • #4542
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    How has Conor Cox not being taken off.....


  • #4543
    Always_Running
    Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Comic Book Guy wrote: »
    How has Conor Cox not being taken off.....

    Could count on one hand the amount of Roscommon players that played well. Poor game decided on poor defending by Roscommon on both goals.


  • #4544
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Always_Running wrote: »
    Could count on one hand the amount of Roscommon players that played well. Poor game decided on poor defending by Roscommon on both goals.

    Agree but Cox should have been whipped way earlier. Kilroy lasted the full game is a sackable offence he had a nightmare. .played dog****e but management have to go.


  • #4545
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Congrats to the u20s on their provincial title!

    Thought we looked in trouble in first 15 mins, couldn't get any possession but weathered the storm and ran out clear and deserved winners.

    Beautiful!



  • #4546
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Still trying to get my head around this new format, but decided I had to try and get something in about the U17s win tonight.

    It was awesome!!!

    11 points down in the middle of the first half and getting wiped out on their own kickout, these young lads showed how sheer courage and will to win can rescue lost causes. Seniors take note!

    Having been lucky enough to get a ticket for the excellent Mayo win and tonight as well, I have been seriously entertained by this group, it's just a pity I didn't get to go to the U20s brilliant win. But it's great to see Roscommon produce so many quality footballers with a winning attitude. Long may it continue.



  • #4547
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Two big games this weekend for football in the county

    U17 Connacht final tonight v Sligo

    U20 AI Semi tomorrow v Down

    Well capable of winning both but I think the U20s are up against a formidable Down team



  • #4548
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    After the nature of the win over Galway I had a big fear about this game. Very fortunate to be just a point down at half time. Lads haven't settled into the game at all yet and showing a lack of composure.

    Conditions are poor but some of the cheap turnovers we have given away so far.

    Hopefully we can reset now for second half and improve our decision making. Really need to keep a tighter reign on the 2 Sligo wing backs going forward in second half.



  • #4549
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Minors were beaten by the better team.

    As mentioned above, Roscommon were lucky to only be 1 point down at half-time, but Sligo just kept popping over the points. In fact their finishing was superb. They had very few wides and their corner forward Luke Marron deserves special mention; superb finisher with both feet.

    It was disappointing especially after the superb comeback last week, but I certainly don't begrudge Sligo.



  • #4550
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117717492#Comment_117717492

    Ah yeah there's absolutely no arguing that by far the better side won.

    Just so disappointing that our lads never settled into the game and did themselves justice. I doubt they ever produced so many cheap turnovers and basic errors in any training session.

    Costly lesson learned for them but that's sport. Onwards and upwards to tomorrow evening!



  • #4551
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    What a display after the water break by the u20s. Similar to last night early on with some very costly turnovers and handling errors but the team spirit, fight and never say die attitude by the lads was something else.

    Can't argue with Cregg getting man of match but I thought Colin Walsh was a pure warrior tonight. That turnover he won in middle of the field that he had no right to that set up the equaliser was inspirational and we were never going to lose the game after it.

    A performance to fill every Rossie with pride.



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