New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

No no no no no

It's not 157,000 a day, it's 157,000 for one day, but you disregard that and keep posting lies.

As has been shown, the day before he got 86,000 viewers which would be 2.6 million views a month. Why are you taking the highest number and using that?

What's Dan Wooton's numbers?

He's only making a "thought experiment". Can you not see his broader point?

And just to add, it's not even a case of "I doubt as high as Farage's show". We have the data. The rest of the shows are barely pulling 10% of Farage's show.

Sainsburys pulling advertising from GB News will be quite the body blow because supermarkets as an industry are one of the heaviest spenders in tv advertising. They advertise 52 weeks a year and then leading up to big events like Christmas and Easter they vastly increase their weekly spends and absolutely saturate tv screens for weeks on end in an attempt to win new customers off their competitors. Marks & Sparks with their Christmas food porn ads famously take customers off all the other supermarkets as people are willing to spend more for quality at that time of year.

Sansburys saying they are pulling advertising from GB News sends a signal to the other supermarkets. Its them saying they are not willing to associate their brand with a known racist like Farage for fear of the backlash if he comes out with something racist. The likes of Aldi, Lidl, Morrisons, Co-op, Marks & Sparks, etc will take note and stay well away from spending their money advertising on GB News, it is just not worth the risk to the potential damage to their brands. This then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy in other industries who have spent decades building up their brands.

I would take a guess that in order for any tv channel to turn a profit it is essential that they attract advertising from four major industries that have huge advertising budgets and who also advertise all year round- supermarkets, banks, insurance companies and mobile/broadband providers. GB News has none of those industries paying them money despite them being the honey pot of tv advertising. The last time I flicked on there was adverts for Bitcoin, a dating app, a used car dealer and a bookies. They are only one step away from showing adverts for telephone psychics and ambulance chasing solicitors.

If GB News cannot attract advertising from big household brands who spend the most money at the most frequent rate then that is an existential problem that will eventually be the sinking of them. I cant see any way that a tv channel with over 120 employees can survive for long without locking in big name advertisers with huge budgets.

A used car dealer? Are GBNews the tv equivalent of a local radio station?

Morgan would be insane to tie himself this boat anchor. He has other work that would be instantly poisoned. Hopkins may need the cash.

It was an ad for webuyanycar dot com, basically a bunch of bottom feeders in the used car market who look for stupid people to sell them their car for much less than its value so they can then quickly flip on it to another dealer at a tidy profit. In Ireland that market is run by back yard car dealers and scrap merchants and advertised by signs hung onto traffic lights all around the place

He'll be back when he can find a reason to say a number bigger than 4.7m.

It seems that just like Farage, this poster only imparts his wisdom on the eager public four days a week 🤣

It's a **** picture, because as I said, the show isn't on every day of the month so your number is wrong to begin with, the channel isn't one show alone so the fact the rest of the channel has abysmal viewing figures should be taken into account, and counting "views" rather than "viewers" is absolutely pointless other than to post a number which seems a lot higher as it's the same viewers each time.

I mean, I can't claim to juggle 10 balls if I just juggle 1 ball 10 times.

They're not though....... Unless of course you count Hungary. Poland and Brazil as across the western world.

Oh lord.

I just. .. em look. Ehh.

I guess you have an answer for everything.

What gives you that idea?

The last 30 years has seen massive progress in many countries in terms of marriage equality, freedom of sexual expression, access to abortion, advances in woman empowerment, separation of church and state, accountability of police forces etc, etc, etc. All things that 'common sense conservatives' have initially railed against and in many cases continue to do so.

Conservatives in the US thought their day had come with Donald Trump and yet he got very little of significance passed, requiring executive orders to make decisions which he tried to brag about most of which were widely panned and easily reversed by Biden once the nightmare of 16 to 20 was over to some degree. What the conservative movement is left with is attempts to seek out wins through doing things demonstrably against the good of the people such as outlawing mask mandates as Covid cases rocket in their community and putting barriers in place for many people of colour in a last gasp attempt to hold on to the power in they enjoyed up until the late 20th century. To quote a conservative poster Boy, 'Facts don't care about your feelings' and the facts of a group of people who put God before law of country can be easily dismissed and likewise with those who seek to undermine any initiative towards sustainability in order to protect the environment.

In the UK, the last Conservative who was driven by any sense of a 'conservative mindset or ideal was probably Thatcher' Since then, they've been largely taken over by weak characters with vested interests with a strong focus on financial opportunity for those in the inner circle more than any ideal you could ascribe to a political or philosophical outlook. You could argue that Theresa was an old school conservative and look at how she was treated.

Maybe before I typed the above, I should have asked you what you mean by 'Common sense conservatism' and an example of where you think that is evident in the real world. Can you give us that?

^^^

And here's another example. It's worth mentioning, I didn't go looking for these stories, I literally saw them both as soon as I looked at Twitter.

What do you think MTG means by this?

Do you see any issue with an elected representative invoking 'the right to bear arms' is relevant when dealing with people administering a vaccine to protect against the most significant pandemic of all of our life times?

Where do you think a society led predominantly with this mindset would end up?

I'm aware this thread is about GB News but given the direction the conversation had moved in in terms of the phrase you've introduced of 'Common Sense Conservativism', these are relevant posts in my view.

The people with this mindset have gone after and hunted down their own colleagues who voted to impeach the former President for inciting an insurrection. Is that evidence of common sense in your view?

If common sense conservatism puts forward arguments as strong as eskimohunt has on this thread, may God have mercy on us all....