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Fire at Nantes Cathedral

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    #152
    TheBlackPill
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    splashuum wrote: »
    So this week a Somalian has been arrested for torching churches in Norway. 2.2m in damage.
    I struggle to fathom why people still believe there is zero chance that Notre Dame was torched? Are people really that naive?

    and i remember the CCTV footage from neighbouring buildings showing a person on the roof and flashes just before the fire took hold(and we were told no workers were there at the time).
    I hope it was not arson, but if murdering 150+ people in the Bataclan and murdering Dozens at a childrens'/teenagers' concert didn't produce mass outrage and action, i doubt an arson attack on Notre dame would too


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    #153
    1800_Ladladlad
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    I know its not related to the burning of Church but its still an attack on a church goer of the same faith

    https://6abc.com/philly-church-attack-cathedral-basilica-of-saints-peter--paul-nelson-perez-archidioese-philadelphia/6384901/


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    #154
    inforfun
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    Meh... that could be related to anything. Or nothing.


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    #155
    1800_Ladladlad
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    inforfun wrote: »
    Meh... that could be related to anything. Or nothing.

    Do you think this is acceptable? For a person to be attacked in a place of worship? Reverse the roles or change the faith and it would be reported as a racist attack or hate crime.

    ---

    When it's a black person that's attacked it's attributed to their race. It's racism, its systemic. The oppression. But when its a white person or a Catholic, in this case, it's convenient for people to not apply the same level of standards provided by the usual activists who revel in identity politics and shouting that whites are racists.

    No Catholic would act like this during mass or when inside a church or cathedral. Iv witnessed all sorts of disruptive abuse coming from people entering inside the church itself and from within the grounds or outside them. The pro-choice groups, syringes, p*ss, and broken glass in the Holy water fountains at the entrance, people disrupting the mass screaming abuse, things thrown at us when outside. The examples are endless. It's become acceptable to mock, attack and antagonise Catholics. & Do you know why? Because there won't be any kind of revenge or response through the use of violence or physical harm!!


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    #156
    inforfun
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    No, i dont think it is acceptable. And the place where it happens .. i dont care about. Wouldnt be more or less acceptable if it happened anywhere else.

    But before any facts are out in the open as to why this happened, i am not going to assume reasons.

    There are just a lot of ***** walking around.


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    #157
    Polar101
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    splashuum wrote: »
    The two incidents that occurred that are highly linked.

    How?


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    #158
    splashuum
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    Polar101 wrote: »
    How?


    Arson attacks on on a place of worship ?


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    #159
    DelaneyIn
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    A Somali migrant has admitted to setting two Norwegian churches on fire earlier this year, claiming that he committed the arson attacks as revenge for a burning of a copy of the Qur’an late last year.

    Here is a Norwegian article on the story - https://www.nrk.no/innlandet/tiltaltes-forklaring-etter-kirkebrannen-pa-dombas-1.15126596


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    #160
    1800_Ladladlad
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    A church in Berlin on fire. It's all just a coincidence how more churches that have stood for centuries begin spontaneously combust. As accidental as the recent bush fires in the states.

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1309507963728560132

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRekQNRqKho


    https://1newsday.com/world/evangelical-church-in-western-berlin-catches-fire-video-photo.html


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    #161
    excludedbin
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    So... this thread is just another dumping ground for racist ballbags to whinge about brown people, eh? Not really seeing what Berlin or Norway have to do with Nantes, France.


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    #162
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    excludedbin wrote: »
    Not really seeing what Berlin or Norway have to do with Nantes, France.
    The burning down of churches :confused: it's a simple enough connection to make.

    Worth noting the Chinese lads who have x380 detention camps for their 1m+ unwanted Uighurs, and make them scan QRCodes to scratch their cojones, are also burning down or demolishing mosques.
    Any talk of religion (of any sort) over there is generally frowned upon. You must only worship the athiest state leadership.

    Meanwhile, oppressive Iran now has the fastest growing Christian evangelical population in the world, even though they're considered a threat to their backwards regime over there.

    A new ID scheme to identify beliefs of an individual, won't serve them any favours. Fed up with the regime, it still grows none the less, at risk of punishment. Expect they will have some mysterious fires before too long.


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    #163
    excludedbin
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    So why not make threads about them if people feel so strongly? This thread was almost entirely racists jumping to conclusions based on their own prejudices and crying about how it's all a conspiracy to "protect non-whites". Now granted, they were right about the culprit.

    This time. But that doesn't change they fact that they jumped to conclusions on nothing but their own prejudices. But that's not enough, now we have to have pages of whinging about other countries. It's never enough to just have one or two threads expounding on how doubleplusungood immigrants are, any and every thread that can possibly be hijacked for it, is.

    Hell, on this page alone there's someone making the ludicrous pronouncement that Notre Dame could've been torched by an immigrant because... And that's it. No reason, no logic, no attempt to link the two in any way other than 'another Cathedral was torched, therefore IT'S POSSIBLE *wink wink* it was done by an immigrant because this one was'. Racists desperately searching for any and all evidence that they can use to justify their prejudices.

    And I know it's so terribly vogue to do that on this forum but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't point it out for what it is.


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    #164
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    excludedbin wrote: »
    So why not make threads about them if people feel so strongly?
    China's Xinjiang is tad further (logistically and culturally) from (our EU) neighbours in Norway, Paris, Nantes, Barcelona, Berlin, Normandy and so on.

    Even then China (HK/Uighurs) does get plenty a mention: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058114153

    Better question would be why don't the folks over in Asia (even MidEast) e.g. Pakistan or S'Arabia, raise concerns with their Chinese neighbours when making the next (wink wink) billion dollar trade deal with the Chinese oppressors.


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    #165
    1800_Ladladlad
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    excludedbin wrote: »
    So... this thread is just another dumping ground for racist ballbags to whinge about brown people, eh? Not really seeing what Berlin or Norway have to do with Nantes, France.

    Did you melt when you typed that ?


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    #166
    excludedbin
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    Did I melt? Is that some new slang kids are using these days or something?


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    #167
    growleaves
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    splashuum wrote: »
    I struggle to fathom why people still believe there is zero chance that Notre Dame was torched? Are people really that naive?

    According to official statistics 875 French churches were vandalised in 2018. Not sure what the numbers are for 2019 and 2020 so far.

    To answer your question, many people pose as naifs to show their conformity to the official narratives of society.


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    #168
    1800_Ladladlad
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    Scumbags

    https://twitter.com/TDN_NOTICIAS/status/1317994827548590081


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    #169
    splashuum
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    The Rwandan man who torched this cathedral murdered a catholic priest today. He was let out of prison soon after the arson.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/08/09/catholic-priest-murdered-in-france-says-interior-minister



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    #170
    WrenBoy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117729022#Comment_117729022

    "The priest, aged 60, had been hosting the suspect for "several months," a police source said."

    If I read this correctly the priest had shown compassion to this man, even though the killers alleged crime had targeted his place of worship. Tragic.

    Edit- the priest had been sheltering him.

    https://twitter.com/BrunoRetailleau/status/1424687334650437634

    "I want to pay tribute to Father Olivier Maire, superior of the Montfortians murdered by a criminal he was sheltering out of charity. His death testifies to the kindness of this priest whom I knew well and whose depth of faith I had been able to appreciate. His death is a great loss"



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    #171
    DelaneyIn
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    So the guy burnt down a church last year yet was released already and wasn't even deported ? And now someone is dead.



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    #172
    WrenBoy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117730663#Comment_117730663

    Maybe next year he'll get his hands on a bishop. France must feel a cold place for Christians.



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    #173
    biko
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    Very tragic. Certainly not the first nor, I suspect, the last priest to be murdered.



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    #174
    Gary Scrod
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    Why hadn't this bogus asylum seeker been deported?



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    #175
    [Deleted User]
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    True Biko, Fr. Joseph Walsh and Fr. Niall Molloy, two of the more famous murders of priests here. Of course, there were many murdered overseas and in the 1920s in Ireland.

    Murder is tragic.



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    #176
    WrenBoy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731632#Comment_117731632

    Especially when its targeting adherents of a specific religion.



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    #177
    splashuum
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    You will read no response to the murder from many of the posters in this thread.



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    #178
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731717#Comment_117731717

    It's his own fault?

    for being a good and decent person trying to help others out?

    That's a disgusting attitude.



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    #179
    TomSweeney
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/114445644#Comment_114445644

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    #180
    Jequ0n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731750#Comment_117731750

    Yes, keeps me alive.

    It takes a severe level of delusion to think that you can just “help” someone who recently burnt down a building. Guess God isn’t almighty after all.



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    #181
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731861#Comment_117731861

    Just so I understand you correctly.....

    The good decent man, helping someone out and doing their best for others is at fault for his own murder?

    Not the actual murdering murderer who murdered him?

    Right.



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