The Delta variant

..just to add, this is another example of deliberate misinformation.

The article you linked to states:

..the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

which is the exact opposite of the nonsense you're trying to spread.

I had a look at that too just to confirm and it's clear that the doctor is in favour of continuing vaccinations, including boosters. I don't understand why somebody would lie like that.

Just to add, I should have said "solely" through vaccinations. He is in favour of boosters and protections just for those who are vulnerable or who had j&j, not everyone, and to let it spread. He is acknowledging that vaccines do not prevent the spread and are not likely to result in herd immunity .

Sorry don't know how to to actual quotes on the new site. This is the translation

"The epidemiologist believes that it is now necessary to try to achieve herd immunity to the coronary virus by letting it continue, but to try to prevent serious illness by protecting vulnerable groups. He says the goal at this point cannot be to eradicate the virus from society.

One and a half months after the abolition of all domestic operations, a record number of people have been diagnosed infected in recent weeks, despite the fact that the majority of the population has been vaccinated.

Þórólfur Guðnason said in Sprengisandur in Bylgjan this morning that it is disappointing that herd immunity has not been achieved with vaccination. He says that only one other way is able to achieve herd immunity, to allow the virus to spread throughout the community

Þórólfur says that he has talked about it since the beginning of the epidemic that the coronary virus mutated. This has now happened with the arrival of the Delta variant across the border.

He says, however, that the vaccination was not in vain. "The vaccination has prevented a serious illness, there is no question about that," says Þórólfur.

Þórólfur says that it is necessary to respond to how many people become infected after vaccination. "We just need to shuffle the cards and come up with new plans," he said.

"We really can not do anything else," says Þórólfur when asked whether the nation of seventy to eighty must be allowed to become infected to achieve herd immunity.

Some need to be revaccinated Þórólfur says that the priority now is to give booster doses to those who have responded poorly to vaccination. "We need to try to vaccinate and better protect those who are vulnerable, but let us tolerate the infection," he said."

"I think it is quite clear that Janssen's defense is weaker than that of other vaccines," says Þórólfur. He says it is a priority to give those who received the Jansen vaccine a booster dose. Then, for example, teachers and the elderly need to be given a booster dose as soon as possible.

"It is not a priority now to vaccinate everyone with the third dose, as we also need to think: Maybe we should get a new variant? Do we need to be vaccinated with another vaccine? ”He says. Þórólfur says that the fight against the virus will be characterized by such uncertainty.

Will not propose hard action "We need to somehow navigate this way, and we are now in this, not to get too many serious illnesses so that the hospital system does not collapse, but still try to achieve this herd immunity by letting the virus somehow run."

Looking more and more likely Israel's data is not far off the mark

Why not just mandate one of each vaccine for everyone? Cover all bases.

A little bit disturbing. Many of our vulnerable got the Pfizer. If infection numbers get high enough the hospitals could easily be over run. Booster shots need to be prioritised now.

Early days but some promising news from Israel for a change

Good God ... the Florida Delta wave is worse than a horror movie ...

There's the "Florida Man" thing of being able to find reports of every weird occurrence, but much of that is down to Florida having no reporting restrictions on police and court actions and very open data.

But not all of it. It is a fairly strange place away from the tourist attractions

It's appropriate that the casedemic is being compared to a horror movie, a work of fiction.

We live in an age of scary graphs and manufactured hysteria.

I think this has been the largest study with Delta for AZ yet. Problem is with the gap between 1 st and 2 nd doses a full six month study wont be due for a couple of months

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Do you have a link for the Pfizer vaccine dropping to 42% after 5 months? That seems a bit of a "if my auntie had balls" type question.