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New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,297 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    As per usual, your numbers are wrong.

    4 days ago you posted they had hit 200,000 subscribers. That means they've grown by 6,000 subscribers in 4 days. It's approx 114 days until the end of November (being generous to the timeframe you've given). So at this rate, that would be approx 171,000 more subscribers, which would still have them under 400,000. At this rate they wouldn't even hit 500,000 by Xmas, New Years or even January.

    You complain about people being lazy when you can't even be bothered to do simple math?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    It is hard work telling lies using basic maths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They don't.

    If their channel is monetised they might get 200k a year in ad revenue off that level of subscribers - except their actual view figures are very low for having that volume of subscribers, so they'll be getting quite a lot less. And that's if its even monetised, I have no intention of checking.

    This would be a drop in the ocean of their total costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭SteM


    Oh, thanks for clarifying. I wasn't really following the thread so it had probably neem asked before but I didn't want to read the whole thing. So ignore the YT numbers posted on this thread then, they're not relevant to the TV station in any meaningful way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They're only posted to try make people who are deeply upset that the viewing figures are so pathetic feel better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,297 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah but about 2,300,000,000 people in the world probably have access to Youtube. That means GB News is reaching 2.300,000,000 people!

    Sorry, just trying to jump to where eskimohunt's argument will probably end up within the next few pages.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,225 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Some would say I am / have been extremely harsh in my approach, but it worked in the end, and it helped improve them as workers.

    Ah - You improved them...your insights and guidance driving them to hard work set them free from the shackles of the socialist state they might otherwise have succumbed to.

    Indeed "Work will set you free" , or as some other people with a similar attitude to certain sections of society they felt were getting a free ride said - "Arbeit Macht Frei"

    "Conservative" values eh??



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    If nothing else it tracks with the aching Fúck you I got mine attitude seeping from every post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭noelfirl


    I think you'll find that if you look at the Tweet acceleration metric (tweets per second per second) and couple that with the 'libtard enragement cofactor' (where approximately 3 people got mildly annoyed), combined with the fact this thread is over 100 pages long, that actually translates to a total audience of 26.5 trillion people watching GB News.

    It's galactic now people, there's no stopping it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    I'd love to see you making beds and cleaning for 12 hours in a hotel or b&b and try to say it's not hard work. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in the service industry and thankfully in my years of experience in it (during which I worked hard to get to where I am now btw), I haven't met anyone like you in it. Based on your attitude and ridiculous posts, I wouldn't let you manage a hen house never mind an actual business.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,297 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Weird thing is, those 26.5trillion people are only watching Farage. Dan Wootton is still barely pulling 10k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭noelfirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭KildareP


    None whatsoever. Youtube subscribers on their own make absolutely no bearing on your income from Youtube.

    Views per video, as a measurement in isolation, have no direct bearing on your income either.

    The key metric is your average view duration multiplied by your number of views.

    The longer people watch, the more ads Youtube gets to insert, and that's what Youtube pays you for.

    200,000 subscribers with 0 viewers is of no use just as 50,000 views with an average view duration of 5 seconds is.

    Only GB News' channel managers will have access to the average view duration so we probably won't ever see that.

    We do however have average view duration for TV broadcast and catch-up through BARB, for the week ending 25th July this was 25 seconds across a reach of 2.61 million viewers, both figures which are in steady decline for the prior 4 weeks. Thus, it cannot be said that Youtube is even helping to build the TV broadcast side.

    Meanwhile at this moment in time their live broadcast on Youtube currently has 420 viewers compared to 6,267 for Sky News (BBC News do not broadcast live on Youtube). Again, we don't have average view duration so no idea how much of the advertising on the broadcast is being watched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    The fact that he thinks the corporation tax is 48% is the real clincher for me. Fella's never run a business in his life.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ah sure, knowing what tax rates are is hard work, and as we established, people just aren't configured for that kind of thing. Shur knowing things isn't real work - only, I dunno, digging ditches with your bare hands I guess?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wasn't referring to the corporation tax rate.

    To take an example, if you had 100,000 euros in a company account and took these funds out of the company, the net figure is approx. 48% tax (cumulative).

    If the 100,000 euros is kept in the company account at year end, the corporation tax rate of 12.5% applies.

    Of course, if you take a salary as a director at a lower rate, then lower tax bands apply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,578 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    If you had any political nous at all, you'd realise just how stupid every line of that post was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,578 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    And that's from a guy who's claiming he runs a business.

    🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    No, he has minions to run the business. While esky lolls back in his deck chair on the beach at St Tropez, sipping pina coladas and dreaming up random numbers he can post about on boards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Andrew Neil quite possibly denigrating a group of people who I suspect would align themselves with GB News much more than they would the BBC, SKY, ITV etc.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Person with supposed IQ of 139 with a highly successful business still plugging YouTube viewers as a sign of success of a TV station.... Meanwhile the TV station only ever really draws viewers for 4 hours of the week.... Strongly doubting user owns a successful business based on his conclusions.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm not plugging YouTube; I'm merely offering an update on this metric. I don't mind if you question my livelihood at all.

    When BARB figures come out, I also post those, too. That said, I'm still hopeful that GB News will become a substantial success in the months/years to come. As I've said many times before, I could be completely wrong! Let's wait and see, though.

    Former conservative candidate for mayor, Shaun Bailey, is appearing on Talking Pints with Farage tonight.

    Dr. John Campbell, with his YouTube channel on COVID etc., is the current guest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Should change the name of that segment to talking shìte.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Perhaps you'd find it far more edifying to engage with views with which you disagree, rather than to casually dismiss those ideas ab initio.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In fairness, engage with the guy who is arguing for letting refugees drown is something not worth most people's time.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Interesting conversation with Shaun Bailey!

    Nigel Farage brought up his criminal past (something I had no idea about), and whether he condemns BLM (and Bailey did).

    And to reply to the post above, I've never once advocated for economic migrants to drown in the English Channel. It's a complete and utter lie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Morgans


    I wouldn't want a click of mine ever ending up in one of your stats. But anytime I'm tempted to click for **** and giggles, I read one of your reports and get reminded of how boring his programme would be.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Interesting to see that Nigel Farage attracted 1,900 views on its YouTube Live; up 40% on last week.

    Colin Brazier has managed to retain approx. 50% of those viewers.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And still, falling back on a single host as proof of success. He does 4 hours a week. It's pretty telling that you don't point to the viewing figures of other shows.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So, another successful evening of rightwing men agreeing about rightwing things in their rightwing safe space watched by virtually nobody. Par for the course then.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Farage cannot win with you.

    According to you, he's a racist.

    When he has a black mayoral candidate on, who agrees with pretty much everything Farage says, you just refer to them as a bunch of right-wing men.

    Farage isn't a racist. And you know it.

    Watched by virtually nobody? Farage had a peak of 157,000 viewers on last week's show. The figures are rising, and rapidly so - not falling.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Bailey ran in the mayoral election for the Tory party. He's also male unless I'm mistaken so why are you upset at my use of the terms "rightwing men".

    And yeah, Farage is a grifting racist. That he's never going to win with me is pretty obvious. Not sure why you pointed that out.

    I'll not bother with the nonsense numbers you've trotted out. You've been called out on those plenty of times. 157,000 in a country of almost 70 million is pathetic.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If Farage was the totemic racist you try to portray, why would a black man in Shaun Bailey have so much time for him?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I haven't been watching it lately, don't watch much tv but they have had plenty of left wing guests on.

    Also nothing wrong with been right wing, millions of people are and nearly every British government has been right wing. Why are modern leftists so butt hurt when people don't sign up to the modern progressive left?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Why would a conservative politician want to appeal to a person who many (of varying degrees of Conservative allegiance) see as some sort of King Maker in UK politics? I don't know, damned if I can figure it out.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Or perhaps Bailey knows that Farage is not a racist.

    It's a lazy smear. As usual with creatures of the Left, they turn to labels to dismiss political opponents because they cannot effectively argue and make their case.

    Throw a label, and off to sleep. This is how immature children engage when they're unhappy with something.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Accuse others of that of which you are guilty. You've repeatedly pulled exactly the same BS on this very thread.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    False.

    Conservatives are allowed to use the term racist. Nobody is arguing that you cannot legitimately use the term racist. The problem with the Left is they accuse so many people of being racist. It's a question of scale. If you question trans ideology, you're auto-labelled a transphobe. In fact, even if you make the claim that a biological man cannot be a woman, that is by many regarded as transphobic. The list goes on.

    I have a friend that leans to the left. He argues that even mentioning controlling borders is, in some way, an inherently racist position.

    It's bonkers.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    More evidence-free drivel.

    I lived with a rightwing drunken racist alcoholic. By the logic you've employed, all right wing people are drunken racists with zero exceptions.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I haven't the slightest clue how you have drawn that conclusion based on my remarks above.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You've picked a single example and then used it to make a sweeping and false generalisation.

    I've no interest in your anti-transgender people gish gallop. Perhaps we could discuss GB News instead. If you have to keep deflecting like this, it suggests a lack of confidence if I'm being honest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Farage used a poster of Syrian refugees in his campaign for Brexit. It was explicit scaremongering implying that were such people were being allowed to enter countries in the EU in an unrestricted fashion.

    He previously said that it people would be right to be concerned about a family of Romanians moving in next door to them.

    He said that the English players taking the knee against racism were the ones who were divisive again, like Priti Patel, in doing so, tacitly giving a pass to those who directly racially abuse the players.

    If you think these accusations are completely baseless then it is likely because you agree with Farage in the views he holds.

    But, we've seen this strategy before, as long as someone doesn't wear a hood or utter the N word in public, then in the eyes of some, there is no evidence of them having racist tendencies.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The problem is that you've misrepresented the stories you've listed.

    For instance, the Breaking Point poster (below) was concerned with how the EU was managing migration from its borders. Clearly, that impacts the UK - and UK citizens must be informed about the border advantages that can come by not remaining an EU member. That seems legitimate to me. Angela Merkel's decision to open European borders to millions of economic migrants from Africa, the Middle East, and even the Far East, was one of the greatest political blunders of our time. And some of those migrants were found to have committed ISIS terrorist activities (in France, for example).

    Second, Farage didn't say he was concerned about a Romanian family moving in next door. He was asked a question of whether he would be comfortable if a group of Romanian men moved in next door. He answered that he would be uncomfortable. But, who wouldn't be? If any large group of men moved into a house next door, you'd be worried. It doesn't help that in London, 92% of ATM crime is committed by Romanian gangs.

    Farage made the point that BLM, as an organization, has political ambitions - including defunding the police. Therefore, taking the knee isn't just symbolic for acting against racism. If that's all it was, nobody would have a problem. But because BLM does have political goals, taking the knee means much more than just an anti-racist gesture. On that point, I think he's spot on. The problem is that many people do not know enough about BLM and what their long-term political ambitions happen to be.

    Once you consider the context and facts of the points you made, you find that Farage isn't a racist at all.

    In fact, Farage could be technically wrong about migrants coming to the UK, but still not be a racist. He would just be factually wrong. Running to the racist card is, as I argued above, a lazy smear.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is literally all false. He stood in front of a Nazi-style poster on the day Jo Cox was murdered and peddled his xenophobia. That 92% statistic is clearly wrong and you've not provided a source so it can be dismissed as the hateful nonsense it is. Then there's the tired old trope of BLM as some sort of nefarious organisation. Where are their corporate headquarters, exactly?

    I'll happily acknowledge Farage as not being a grifting racist if you can substantiate the above claims but that won't happen. I live in the UK, I've been listening to his bile for years. It's plain as day what he is.

    Why you've committed to defending these pseudointellectual grifters so fervently is beyond me.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People claiming to make loads of money tends to be like those that claim to be having loads of sex. In other words bs.

    Those that do make good money aren't stupid enough to do so online because it's possible for some to find out if itheir claims are true or not and sell on/ give their financial information to various online groups Same as its entirely possible to send their online activity to their employer, clients etc.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    False, and not for the first time today.

    It is well established that at least 90 percent of ATM crime in London is committed by Romanian gangs. Even if it were 9 percent, nobody would want a gang of males of any nationality to move in to the house next door.

    BLM is an overtly political organization. It favours defunding the police, whilst also supporting identity politics to an extreme degree (which is incredibly divisive), and supporting a more socialist system of government. Their wider aims are well established at this stage, including other groups with which they associate. Do you seriously think that BLM, attracting many millions of dollars in donations, exist to just promote taking the knee? Come on. You'll also note that many of the founders of BLM are now multimillionaires with multiple properties. I wonder how that happened. A massive case of hypocrisy.

    The problem is that you haven't exposed yourself to the evidence. Instead, you close up and think you have all the information you need to know - and anyone who disagrees with you must therefore be a racist or have racist tendencies.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Meaningless fearmongering from an American conservative site and a Daily Mail link. No thanks.

    You've been asked for evidence countless times and provided absolutely nothing.

    Ironically, I remember when it was supposed to be the left who were misandrists.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Starts the post with a Daily Mail article, ends it accusing someone else of not having exposed themselves to the evidence. Almost funny if it wasn't so indicative of a particular mindset.

    With a diversion in the middle to misrepresent a global ideal demanding fair treatment of all in society at those specifically hired to protect the public.

    You're apologizing for and explaining away multiple cases of someone showing racist motivations in trying to present their argument. That alone should tell you something.



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