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Are there many clubs in Cavan being managed by locals? I am out of the county these days but it seems there is barely any and instead clubs putting massive "£expenses" the way of travelling mercenaries with no interest in the long term success of a club. Its a sad sight. If clubs spent a fraction of the expenses on developing coaches within their clubs would they not be better off in the long run

Ramor have Ray Cole over them, Jimmy Higgins with Crosserlough, Adrian Maguire Ballinagh, Dermot McCabe over with fintan Reilly from Redhills

A lot of the others have outside men

Seems the underage talent has dries up and collapsed in Cavan. Who I wonder is responsible for this.

I haven't checked the scoring but somebody told me that Darragh Lovett is hugely rated but got one point from play over the 70 minutes? Unfortunately, Pairc TV didn't work as per normal and only got to see the last 15 minutes or so on Facebook. There was one particular female voice from Fermanagh that came over the microphone and sounded very vocal (and very annoying!).

Fermanagh much the better team it appeared. We were luck to get the penalty. Then one of the forwards, 15 maybe, had a chance to shoot at the end and turned back so the ref, correctly in my opinion, blew it up. He had given us the opportunity. Teams can't be expected to continue to go back and forth and try and work a tap over in a situation like that.

You mustn’t have much experience of coaching. There are plenty of players who get an inflated idea of their own/value performance because of over praise. Type the topic into Google and you’ll see plenty of research on the impacts of praise and sports psychology. You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s very naive.

Take Caoimhin O’Reilly for example. He’s been built up by some as the second coming of the messiah since that Tipp game in 2016. Has he justified people’s expectations? No he hasn’t and I’m still amazed to see people reference him when discussing starting teams as if he’s Cavan’s version of Con O’Callaghan. Do I think the coverage has affected him? Yes I do.

Caoimhin McGovern has been playing club football now at adult level for, what, a year. I don’t overly follow junior football but are you saying he’s consistently scoring 5/6 points for Shannon Gaels in most games in that timeline? You describe him as “excellent”. I wouldn’t think there’s enough of a sample there yet to band around terms like that. He hasn’t even completed a full season of adult football.

Niall McDermott, James Brady, O’Connell, Tierney, Dunne - those are some of the “excellent” club forwards, lads doing it consistently over the years and are generally worth 5 points plus to their teams.

Did much of the 2-32 scored in the first 4 games come in a demolition of Maghera by any chance?

So points scored from play are worth more than frees?

Of the players you listed as being worth 5 points per game (Brady, McDermott, Dunne) none of them ever score from frees? News to me.

Give it a break please. He’s scored a lot in his first season, what’s the point in arguing about that. He’s clearly got potential.

Nobody has said he doesn't have huge potential. What I've said is that its potential at the moment. He is only 18 and I'd like to see him perform at a high level before we go down the route of another Caoimhin O'Reilly.

I also don't feel its running him down to say I'd prefer to see a larger sample of games before I label him ''excellent'' and the like.

I've seen too many lads praised in the past to go down that route too early and like I said ''Hopefully he goes on to be a cracking player for club and county and fulfils his early potential''.

Careful now, your point could be misinterpreted and you'll be accused of running a player down by keeping feet on the gound and describing him as a ''prospect'' and having ''potential''. You should be using superlatives at every opportunity.

One of the forwards you mention is from my club and all I can say is that he was making match day panels and starting teams last year but claims he hasn't even got a look in this year and has got no communication re why his status has changed. I'd be surprised to see him back in there for next year. He also reckons he never seen a happier management team than when Conor Moynagh walked into the changing room. Moynagh got more communication apparently than some of the fringe players received all year!

The sooner the club championship gets started and we can forget about this year’s county season, at all levels, the better.

It looks like the Ulster win last year papered over a lot of cracks that are now cruelly exposed again.

A full review is needed and something needs to drastically change.

The County Board are now telling teams only 200 supporters (100 from each club) allowed at the League semi finals this weekend unless they move them to Breffni where 500 will be allowed. The whole point of finishing higher in your group was to get home advantage!

Two of the games scheduled for the weekend would be seen as derbys - my own club Crosserlough face Ballinagh. I would expect to see easily more than 200 at that. Laragh also play Lavey. Those two clubs absolutely hate each other. Again, I'd expect to see more than 200 at a league semi final between them.

The other game is Gowna vs Cavan Gaels. There's been an interesting enough rivalry over the year between those two so, again, I'd expect to see more than 200 supporters attend.

Yeah, but it wasn't being monitored at any the games I was at. Mostly that wasn't problematic earlier as either there wasn't 200 at any games or the weather was brilliant and everyone was well spaced out when there probably was a few over that number.

Its been a few years since I posted here. Good to see the thread going well!

What club are you from?

Re the above, I'm not sure you can blame the county coaches. I hate to go back to funding but it is a problem. We have 5 or 6 county board coaches I think it is split between, what, 40 clubs. Each coach has to try and get around 5/6 clubs, plus hurling. Compare that to Dublin where each club has pretty much their own coach assigned thanks to the development funding they've been given. Most clubs would love to have a coaching structure which amounted to more than fathers or ex players in their spare time but the resources aren't there. Its difficult enough to get coaches as it is. Some clubs can't even fill their committees.

Coaching education isn't just the responsibility of Cavan board either. Alot of the courses are run by Ulster but there are far too few of those. The main issue is that there simply isn't enough put into coaching education but I still think that comes from a lack of resources rather than a lack of interest. More funding would lead to extra staff/resources to provide the education.

These are being counted as county board fixtures like championship games. The gate is going to the county board and they are providing some of the stewards at each ground.