All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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What's the conspiracy angle?

Why are you dodging questions?

At this stage it looks like anyone can post whatever they want.

205 pages now and not a single person has demonstrated what measures will be permanent nor why, anyone?

While going a bit off topic, the difference in the authoritarian countries is that they put the consequences onto the individual (albeit quite nasty), so if you refuse, you go to jail, get fired etc.

Western countries try and give people freedom and choice wherever possible but it also means that people avoid the consequences of their decisions.

With you refusing a vaccine, would you also refuse a hospital bed if you develop severe COVID-19 symptoms? Would you be open to paying out damages if you infect someone who can't get vaccinated which caused them severe disease and/or death?

The first thing a lot of the vaccine hesitant and anti-vaxxers ask for when going into hospital with COVID-19 is for the vaccine, but at that point it's too late, but also indicates they didn't understand what they were refusing, at what point does the state give up it's responsibility to people such as yourself? You're risking people with auto-immune diseases every time you go and get your eye medicine, would it be acceptable for them to refuse you service to protect others and their staff?

a. Refuse hospital bed in case of covid 19 infection? No. Just like a smoker does not refuse lung cancer treatment. Or someone who went skiing off-piste does not refuse hospital treatment if they break their leg. Or someone who drank too much does not refuse treatment for alcohol poisoning/emptying their stomach.

b. Pay damages when infecting someone? No, how could they prove I infected them? And if they are so super vulnerable that they cant get vaccinated, why are they going to the pub? They should stay at home then. Because although the chance is lower, even vaccinated people can sometimes spread covid to them. We know that vaccines do not stop transmission of the virus. They just reduce the risk of hospitalization if you contract it, and they slightly reduce transmission.

c. Refuse treatment for my eye condition? No, why would I not have the right for this essential medical treatment?

The fact that you are suggesting that unvaccinated people shouldn\t have the right to essential medical healthcare shows to me that you are a really creepy Mengele type person whom I would never want in my close friends circle. Yikes.

Right, and will there be something sinister behind it all?

That's the whole implication of anything on this forum, that there's some ulterior nefarious motive.

Usually because are driven by the same beliefs and often have the same characteristics. It's not a coincidence that 99% of the conspiracy theorists on this forum are either anti-vax or declaring they will not get vaccinated.

That research shows that about 10 people per million vaccinated got vaccine related myocarditis, and about 20 per million got vaccine related pericarditis. At between 23 and 28 days later none of those people had died, some had resolved their symptoms, and the remainder were improving.

Now since you claim to follow science, can I leave it to you to research how many people per million who get Covid also get myocarditis, and pericarditis? You might be surprised what you find!! I'll look it up later, when I have time ... but interested to see what you find?

(edited later to add the following ...)

See https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/ which seems to be based on the following study https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v1.full.pdf

The conclusions in the report are

So what do you think of that? Your friend, the professor of Microbiology, didn't give you the complete picture. Doesn't this tell you that you need to verify any information you decide to believe!!

And, by the way, I'm prepared to change my views if someone gives me credible reasons, and evidence. Feel free to show me the reasons why you believe what you believe (and not just links to articles on Lifesitenews - like the contradictory one you linked before - but instead to solid research).

Imagine if there was a 99.7% chance you wouldn't get cancer,

but you were forced to go on chemotherapy just incase.

WAKE UP

The bullshit measures will be permanent.

Conspiracy theorists have been coming to this forum for 13 years now telling people to "wake up", but they can never explain properly or give specifics, what is the difference between you and them?

Right, so what's your Covid conspiracy specifically?

We have a year and a half of people suggesting Communists, Fascists, Satan, the NWO, you name it. Interesting how they keep disappearing and the "conspiracy" keeps getting tamer and tamer as new posters keep modifying it and distilling it down. How are you different from them?

Given that cancer eventually kills like 1/3 people, I'd argue that premise is inherently useless 😂

OK. So tell us. What specifically is the government going to do?

Which measures are going to be permanent?

We are in the middle of a pandemic which, since one year and a half ago, is killing without any distinction between rich and poor, as allegedly there are no cures except vaccines.

Could you please name all the European politicians who sadly died from Covid?

So, only one???? Aged 94 who died with Covid and not from Covid? (the only proof would be a declaration of the family???)

I agree with many of your points. The cure is out there everywhere, and Trump is an example. But we have to destroy all the human rights we achieved in our history, hence vaccines work much better