All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam McCarthy Cup) 2021

Will tell what. You said they have no skill why do we need time to prove or disprove that ?

Its plain to see they have skill so we dont need time to tell

I don’t think it’s about number of titles won underage. Underage is a way of developing your future talent it’s not always about winning every match. Personally, I think Cork are playing to their strengths. They had a poor season by their standards last year and came back improved and are continuing to improve. Until the substitutions were made they were probably too reliant on Horgan. When the substitutions were made they ran riot. I just think Cork are a couple of players away from the complete package. It’s my own personal opinion based on watching the seniors playing and from conversations with people who are involved in the underage teams in Munster.

The only history that matters (and only a small bit) is very recent history where the two teams were pretty much made up of the same personnel i.e. in the last year or possibly two.

People talking about stats and how many times one team has beaten the other in a row doesn't matter either. If you toss a coin and it's a head, that result doesn't make it any more or less likely that the next toss will be a head.

History matters to fans but has no bearing (or certainly shouldn't have) on the teams because of their sports psychologists etc. The history of 40 years of tears and pain that was finally lifted in 2018 makes me happy to be a fan and hoping this run of form continues long into the future. Do I hope it will be an exciting, highly skillful final? I couldn't care less as long as Limerick have more on the scoreboard than Cork at the final whistle.

Will my feelings influence what happens on the pitch: don't think so...

If it was inconclusive then shouldn't the decision on the day stand? I admit that I don't know the rules for an appeal such as this - but in a sports appeal the burden is usually on the appellant to dislodge the original decision ( its not like a Court case where there can be an appeal de novo).

Anyway, as ML says, best 15 v best 15.

Peter just needs to score the winner in the final now just to really give the whingers something to complain about to get them through the winter

I think the match is pretty evenly balanced, maybe a slight expectation of a Cork win considering the momentum behind them.

You are getting serious value off the bookies if you are a betting man so.

I love statements like this. They never have any basis in reality

Gaa discipline is officially a joke. Players have been given a licence to do as they please in semi finals as they will more than like get any suspension reminded or overturned by the CCCC. Its an almost yearly occurrence in one of the codes now.

Casey was a clear headbutt where he even threw himself to the ground clutching his own face and faning injury. Yes its not nice for anyone to miss a final but you should be punished if you break the rules. Otherwise they mean nothing.

This ruling also undermines the umpires and linesman who brought it to the refs attention. Why would they bother in future if its basically calling them unreliable.

How many championship meetings did they have between 1973 and 2018 ?

Also dont deflect from the fact you were wrong

Equally dont you try to fool yourself into thinking it is the "wrong" decision when your facts are as limited and flimsy as the other side

You are 100% correct.

The match officials witnessed an incident. The red card was handed out on this basis, and it should only be overturned on the production of clear and irrefutable video evidence.

Players get sent off all the time at club level wuthout the TV cameras present. I have seen players miss out on playing co finals but without being able to show otherwise, then it goes by the referees report.

I didn't see any video evidence that proves the match officials were incorrect.