Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I’m as consistent as I’ve always been, Im still about getting this over rapidly but it’s too late for this year

This summer is finished in Ireland now

Will the booster shots be administered in time for Summer 2022 in Ireland??

My initial point is that the op was previously content for Ireland to follow its own unique science regarding covid and public health advice and looked with great scorn upon those who didn’t follow said advice.

Why is the op of the opinion the public health advice is now to cautious when previously it wasn’t even though the numbers involved are similar to a few months ago

I’m trying to quantify what has been the lightbulb moment for some to realise the advice is ridiculously cautious because covid is here to stay and the public health advice in Ireland will be also

I’ve never said I want things to remain closed

I’m interested in how nPHEt are positive though, that’s an interesting one

Ireland has one of the highest vaccine uptake rates in Europe but is by far the most suppressed as seen by the limit on bodies allowed congregate in venues

if nPHEt were positive they would have have Ireland leading the way back to normality in Europe not some sound bites equivalent to getting a toddler to eat his turnip with the promise of ice cream

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The HSE left what in ??

Seriously, how do you expect me to understand never mind reply to that ..post ,and why are you attacking me ?

The discussion was about people like yourself and your contempt towards those who question public health advice.

but now the ones who held others to such high standards for so long aren’t applying those standards to themselves

i find it interesting and I will do my best to hold you to the standards you set for me

Its always better not to curse during a discussion it comes across poorly tbh

Either way the public health advice was the standard our society was following and you and others were holding other citizens to that standard. Now you seem to be of the opinion that advice is too cautious, but its still the rules

I always thought the advice was to cautious, however I never looked with contempt on those who bent the rules slightly after 13 months or even ever bent the rules, once they didn't hold others to different standards than themselves

It's not that the advice is too cautious it's that the government who should be making decisions have all gone on holidays and allowed a situation to continue which should have been modified .

There needs to be a plan of action for a section of industry that was completely ignored when the ministers were making plans for GAA matches and pubs .

That's what you get when you let gombeens in charge .

NPHET can't change anything without MM and his motley crew around to implement it .

You are defending the indefensible, and to be fair to that other poster he didn't even try to justify himself or deny it.

He castigated kids in Galway for not following the so called "rules", but come the time when those rules actually started to affect him he immediately pivoted to publicly disagreeing with them. Thats pretty goddamn hypocritical.

Its reflective of a wider issue in Irish society, a whole swathe of people cheerleading for these measures that don't actually affect them and sneering at those who are affected. But we all know that if it was their job on the line their sanctimony would redirect in an instant.

Tweaked slightly:

"It's reflective of a wider issue in Irish society, a whole swathe of people cheerleading for allowing the spread of a disease that doesn't actually affect them and sneering at those who can be affected. But we all know that if it was their health on the line their sanctimony would redirect in an instant."

Not that I'm denying some compromise is obviously needed, but pretending either faction is innocent of focusing on their own self-interests is a bit rich.

You know what Fintan, the squeeze isn't worth the juice. The more people like B and others that now decide it's time to move on regardless of the current "guidelines" the better. It means we are slowly getting to a place where even ardent supporters of previous restrictions see it as too much. That is a good thing in my book. Has it taken far too long? Of course, but we are getting there. I don't think trying to hold people to their previous standards does any good. Only they know why they were so for lockdown and restrictions before but now feel happy to do their own thing.

I understand the reasoning for wanting to ask the questions but really we are better off encouraging more people to do this in a positive manner. It means we are getting closer and closer to an end of this.

You've been against restrictions from the get go due to the economic repurcussions.

Then having a go at a poster who will be working outside which is not against the restrictions as far as I can see.

I honestly can't understand you're stance here at all, only reason I can see is to 'one up' a poster.

Also, why do you keep referring to NPHET as nPHEt, is it something childish? If you reply saying its something to do with not recognising them as the public body responsible for public heath during this we'll that's also childish.

I think you are definitely stretching with your posts now but sure you'll respond not addressing any of the above with 'the economy'.

Comical.

something is not adding up with government numbers i think

155 deaths from covid since april 2021 however only 7 of these were fully vaccinated

given that over 70% of adult pop vaccinated how can this be, were the 148 deaths in 20 something year olds??

number of daily infections/ hospitalisations and icu numbers are as high as early Jan before mass vaccine roll out so there is no sign that

the vaccines have slowed down the spread at all

What am i missing, these numbers don't make sense

70% of adults are now fully vaccinated, they haven't been since April.