US and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan...- threadbanned users in OP

Someone was talking about US killing civilians in Afghanistan in drone strikes and so on ,over 10 years it's something like 2700-3000 (claimed) during the same 10 year period the Taliban accounted for close to 30,000 civilian deaths and that increased every year ,at the same time thousands still get killed and maimed by russian landmines left behind from their failed invasion and occupation ,

I'd love to see the figures of exactly how many tailban forces currently fighting in Afghanistan and what the loses they would be suffering if the Afghan army put up an actual fight ,

There Americans are still carrying out airstrikes ,they only announced a few days ago they were sending B52s and C130 gunships to provide some support to Afghan forces

I don't see any point in wasting any more blood and treasure on it. You can't set every country with a terrible regime and complicated backstory right, and you certainly won't be thanked for trying.

20yrs and trillions of dollars totally wasted. Not to mention lives lost.

Country worse than when they came in. What was the point?

AQ will be back in business in Afghanistan before the year is out and they are probably heavily involved in the current fighing.

AQ only know one thing, international terrorism.

They will claim protecting the world and killing bin laden was the point, when in reality we know that was never the objective.

The yanks are delusional

Iraq, yes 100% instability ( Libya another) But Afghanistan? Afghanistan was deliberately kept unstable long before the US arrived, and if anything, they brought peace and security. Had they not been undermined at every turn, Afghanistan would be an entirely different place today. Be interesting to see what all the countrys calling for the removal of the US invaders will do now to help Afghans.....nothing I suspect.

Followed this since it happened 20 years ago. As misguided as it was, there was a faint glimmer of hope that the country could have had a brighter future, nope, the Bush admin abandoned it to a skeleton crew while they went on their Iraq jaunt. The Taliban regained a foothold, and since then it's only been a question of when the Taliban would retake the country, not if. Very grim for the girls and young women who have grown up without the Taliban, now facing a future of Islamic fundamentalist rule. The world can't intervene and the place will turn into ISIS caliphate 2.0, churning out waves of indoctrinated jihadists and god knows what.

Grow up...

If / when the Taliban take charge,any discussion concerning the future of Afghanistan will be a one sided affair., with the Taliban being the only contributers.....in Doha, the world is being presented with the image of the "New Improved Taliban" designed to make them more acceptable...but reports coming from the ground in Afghanistan tells a completely different story,,,,,its business as usual, Taliban style ( old style) and all that entails. Basically stability is all any Afghan rural or city want. But as things stand at moment, the Taliban will not accept anything less than complete control, especially in areas they have captured, be they City's or countryside. Unless there's a reversal of US policy, and they return militarily ( unlikely ) and there is a major pushback against the Taliban, and they are forced into a compromise, they will try for complete control. But make no mistake about it, no Afghan wants the Taliban back in power..they know only too well what they are capable of, unfortunately.

In a sense it will be worse....no singing, ( unless praising Allah ) definitely no dancing, song birds banned, ( should only be listening to verses from the Quran ) beards ( of a certain minimum length) compulsary for men,and Barbers will be only allowed to trim hair. no shaving. Women banned from wearing of white shoes / socks ( Allah's Colour ) no photography of any living thing allowed ( you are creating another soul ) Black turbanned and cloaked thuga roaming the streets, the Religious Police, but any member of the Taliban, no matter what rank, even an uneducated ( except in the version of the Quran used by the Taliban) foot soldier will have control over any non-Taliban citizen. There's lots of other negative ( and worse ) aspects of Taliban rule, for the Aghans, its a frightening scenario.

The point is, having experienced Taliban hard line Islamic rule in the past,its the last thing any Afghan wants, and that included the Pashtuns...its for sure not a democratic decision and is being imposed on them at gunpoint. And the question has to be which Country's have being and still are supporting the Taliban with weapons, training, logistics etc. for the last 20 years ???