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All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭Unicorn Milk Latte


    The video is worth watching.


    I have to agree. Visiting conspiracy video sites like Bitchute is educational. It puts things that sound 'rational' at first glance in context. The site is full of Neonazi content. Antisemitism. Videos that claim 'Sweet Tooth' style human/animal hybrids exist in reality. Claims that Covid is caused by Graphene Oxide. The Pfizer vaccine contains a poison 'kill shot'. Mark of the Beast vaccine implants. How to cure cancer. 'Suppression' of Ivermectin treatment in Ireland. Hitler on family values. Microchips injected with vaccines. Millions dead from jab. 'Covid' deaths violently created in hospitals. Flat earth. The Truth about John McAffee Death. Stanley Kubrick Admits to Faking Moon Missions. Is Prince Philip Half Reptilian? Holocaust denial.

    Hundreds of David Duke, Sherri Tenpenny, Judy Mikovits, Joseph Mercola videos.

    Countless videos with a title that starts with 'The Truth about..'.



    Hate speech that is banned on YouTube finds a home on Bitchute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Why is it worth watching?

    You and your fellow conspiracy have spent the last year and a bit claiming that covid measures are going to be permanent.

    Now that you all have given up on that claim cause it was a lie, you're moving on to new claims that are basically the same.

    There's been no acknowledgment of the fact you guys were wrong and lying constantly. Why would this time be any different?


    The reason you guys made all these mad and false claims and made complete embarrassments of yourself is that you've all been following these conspiracy grifters without any critical thought. You just believe what you're told by obvious scam artists.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,765 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    What are this guys qualifications? Was he not an amateur tech blogger? What makes him an authority on economics or climate change? Who is Fiona Marie Flanagan? Why should we listen to her?



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    He says stuff that Gortanna agrees with, so obviously he's an expert worth listening to.

    It's not possible he's a scam artist who's latching on to popular conspiracy topics to make money out of folks like Gortanna... because... umm...?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,765 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Just amazing to me that of all the people in the world you can listen to/read bout, its the same 3 or 4 unqualified people. A tech blogger? WTF?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's not that hard to understand why he appeals. He provides a narrative that fits people's world views that is also attention grabbing. He also presents it in a way that is very easy to understand, yet appears superficially to be deep, secret insider knowledge, so it makes people who aren't able to understand complex topic feel clever and informed. And all of it is in a convincing, easy to digest package that can be shared with a few clicks. And it all works as long as your audience can't do critical thinking or they are unwilling to.


    What I don't understand is why folks like Gortanna post it. He's smart enough to know what points and questions to avoid as as not to expose the obvious issues with the claims. So it's not that he's just some gullible rube who's just swallowed what he's told and can't understand why it's wrong.

    He knows why it's wrong and is actively avoiding addressing that.

    So either it's a profound level of self deception, or something else is going on.

    Either way Gortanna and his buddies aren't honest enough to explain which it is. Best thing to do is to keep pointing out all the lies and dishonesty conspiracy theorists have to engage in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    The funny thing is, I wouldn't get the jab even if it was proven to be 100% safe. I don't want it, I don't need it, same way as I don't need blood thinners or anti-depressants. How hard is that for people to understand?



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Doctors disagree with you.

    And given how you keep popping into this thread then running away without addressing any points, we can assume you don't have any good reasoning behind your claims.

    You're just repeating what you're told by scammers. And like a good little boy, that's what you do.


    And reminder, the topic isn't the vaccines. It's the covid measures you guys claimed were going to be permanent. You lied about that. Aren't you going to be brave and cop to your mistake? Or are you gonna vanish for a while and pop back in with another vacuous soundbite?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    You do need it to protect others around you. I'm guessing you don't understand how vaccines work. Take polio for example there was no herd immunity for it, it was purely cured by people taking the vaccine. So by your logic it would have been, well let's not vaccinate anyone for polio cause not every child will have it... And it would now still be a problem. To quote you... How is that so hard to understand?

    Also on topic, what's going to be permanent and why?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I understand this mindset perfectly. It's the equivalent of stating I'm not going to wear a seatbelt to "stick it to the man". It's ignorance out of spite.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    I agree the polio vaccine and seat belts also are very necessary and do the job they are intended to do but the clotshot? Not so much.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    But you're lying. The covid vaccines are effective.

    Again you're just repeating crap from twitter you can't actually back up.

    You're going to run away again because you can't back it up and you're too dishonest and cowardly to admit it.


    But again, like I keep telling you cats, keep it up.

    Every time you do this you shown how silly, childish and dishonest the conspiracy theories are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    But they are working?

    Also clotshot? How childish.

    Gonna back that up at all?

    Also what's permanent and why?



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    There's also plenty of anti vaxxers who claim that the polio vaccine doesn't actually work either.

    Guess we'll start hearing that from Buzzer cause disagreement between conspiracy theorists is verboten.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It reduces your chance of getting Covid, and if you do manage get it, it will be less severe, and it reduces the chance you will spread it to others. It's a no-brainer.

    But no, you have tapped into conspiracy and anti-vax nonsense that promote fear and hysteria and it's obvious you blindly lap it all up without question. It's a smart market that taps into people like you, getting your clicks. Of course, none of it makes any sense, which is why you (and all other conspiracy theorists) have to constantly run away from basic questions and logic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Even in the 1930's they knew exactly what anti-vaxxers were. Nothing has changed




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,765 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    Spot on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Not really. Just another rather pathetic dump and run.

    You haven't been able to explain how vaccines are a breach of civil liberties. You haven't provided a single rational reason for why you wouldn't get a vaccine. You run away and hide every time this is asked because all you have is these silly memes you can parrot. You can't provide an argument or your own thoughts because you aren't given them on bitchute. So you ignore.

    Again, you are being dishonest and cowardly.


    You are refusing the vaccines because you are selfish and you are swallowing bullshit you've read on the internet. You are risking the health of other people so you can pretend to be smart and informed and so you can line the pockets of conspiracy con artists.

    You prove this again and again every time you cower away from engaging with anyone who is critical of your conspiracy theory religion.

    Please continue. You're doing far more damage than any skeptic could.

    In fact, I bet we'll be hearing from your conspiracy theory buddies how you're actually a disinfo agent sent to make them look bad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    Fluvid vaccines are a breach of civil liberties because they are being forced on us through bribery, blackmail, fearmongering and shaming.

    Conversely it is my belief you are swallowing bullshit you've read on MSM and heard from Government sources.

    The lockdown will last until businesses cannot recover. Sick broke and dependant is how they want us.

    Vultures always wait until victims are too weak to fight.

    The lies and propaganda will be permanent.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ok. So prove that you aren't just parroting conspiracy grifter bullshit.

    Explain one measure that will be permanent. Explain why it benefits the people you believe are behind this global conspiracy.

    Just that. No rants about tangents.


    But if you ignore it and run away again, you are admitting you can't do even that.

    So go ahead.


    Also. maybe you could explain what you mean "Fluvid"? Are you repeating the bullshit conspiracy claim that covid doesn't exist?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Imagine going into the e.g. football forum and actually writing stuff like this, that it's all fake, the scores are wrong, that it will all change forever.

    The sad thing is I know some people like this, and some of them have become distant and removed from their families and friends. Made-up imaginary beliefs actually affecting their lives. SARS, Swine Flu, Ebola, countless world events, it's always the exact same, the 1984 "doomsday" future is just around the corner, but never quite comes, the same cliched crap every time, year after year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,765 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭Unicorn Milk Latte


    You poor, poor victim you. So THE EVIL GOVERNMENT is trying to steal your freedom, by offering entirely voluntary, free vaccinations during a global pandemic that killed over 4 million people. How dare they.


    Being paranoid about vaccines does not make vaccines dangerous.

    Being paranoid about governments does not make governments oppressive.

    Being paranoid about measures being permanent does not make measures permanent.


    Your personal efforts to make non-pharmaceutical measures permanent by refusing pharmaceutical measures - just for the purpose of keeping your comfy paranoia narrative alive - will not matter, because antivaxers are a small minority, and the rest of us will be able to compensate for you.



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    Fiona Marie Flanagan is a former academic economist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. What a pathetic attempt at an answer.

    You were asked what David Cullen's qualifications were. You ignored this question.

    Why did you not answer this question?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    People who have no problem believing in lies have no problem lying.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's not even a lie. He didn't even bother to cut out the question from the post he quoted.

    It just looks like it's some kind of delusional belief that if you pretend not to see something, other people can't see it either.

    It's ridiculous.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,960 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    When someone takes information and deliberately misrepresents it to fit a false narrative - that's a lie.

    Countless posters have explained many basic concepts to you in these threads, but you've demonstrated you clearly aren't interested in truth or fact, only in "exciting" conspiracy narratives.

    You've just asked my opinion on that last link. The site is yet another fake news site designed to spread 1984 style disinfo for people like you who lap it up. The woman is a loon. The meeting has already happened, here are the details


    That's too boring for these paranoid people, so they distort and misrepresent it to create yet another 1984 narrative(tm) in which the ever nefarious authorities are "coming for you". They do this every time without fail because people like you click on it. There's always a new wave of chumps, paranoid of authority, uninformed and low on critical thinking, who will buy into it's exciting fantasy narratives, blindly failing to notice the same crap has been recycled for decades.



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