Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

I genuinely don't understand what that was about. Completely ineffective in every game this year. And yet, it was working early in the first half today.

First championship loss in 7 years. That one hurt but it lead to the greatest team of all time developing. I'll take this one.

COYBIB!

is there any gym work been done at the ‘expense’ of skills training I wonder though, . When I see the guys in the gym I see at the times I go it’s just individual training...I wonder is there team sessions ?

i too would rather them on grass too perfecting skills and tactics.

Jesus Christ, even when we lose it's not enough for some over in the car crash thread.

This post is spot on and what was going through my head around the 60 minute mark...

the lack of support runners, the player with the ball left in isolation with two or three opposition players converging and only able to stop and or retreat...no runners showing.

Also an attacking plan B ? With Mayo getting ‘physical’ on and off the ball with our forwards... it was repetitive failure.

Based on performances this year, and the continued likely improvements in Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone, it's not a given at all that Dublin will win next year, they'll certainly be in the mix but they need a few new players to come though or some of those on the panel to step up.

Would expect us to be in the mix without winning it for the next 2 or 3 three years . It will take time to identify and get newer lads up to the level it would require .Not sure how long the manager will stay that could be a factor as well . All the talk of a conveyer belt of talent just chomping at the bit to come thru is just hot air by lazy journalists and pundits hope I am proved well wrong of course .

Even though I was not at it in CP I could 'visualise' (as Joe Duffy says) the off camera stuff. Because the patterns have been EXACTLY the same in the last few games Wexford, Meath, Kildare. It stands out a mile. There was one against Kildare which really summed it up when Basquel has made a run in a dangerous area no one supported him and he hit a big long pass backwards. It was really odd.

In a way I am glad I was not in CP because it would annoy the bejayus out of me watching them.

Now if an eejit like me with a keyboard can see that. That means fellas like Dessie Farrell and James Horan can as well. Farrell can't be doing it on purpose he said it in interviews he was not happy with it.

It is a lazy way of playing in my opinion easier for lads to go for the backways pass rather than than burst a gut and make that run. Honestly, I hate watching it when it is constant. Instead killing the game by keeping the ball and suddenly making quick bursts an interchange was the way it used to be. I think this group of players just are not up to being able to play that way any more. Dessie Farrell is not thick he can't want them to keep on with the same craic.

Whelan was one of the few who called it out in his analyse the Kildare as well, so I was not imagining it. Which is why Tomás Ó' Sé's and Colm Rourke's shock at the final whistle really surprised me. Plus worse still there was another pattern emerging in the games.

Dublin would coast to a handy lead and then labour with all that fluting about with the ball. 11 points up v Meath at half time, 6 up v Mayo at half time. Really overdoing it (I would not mind if it was every so often or killing a game at the end). Easy to defend against if a team is fit (able to run at teams) and organised. Kildare did not have enough forwards to be able to run at the Dublin defence. But the one time a fella who was able to did they got a goal out of it - Daniel Flynn. The only thing I was surprised about in yesterday's game was that Mayo did not get a goal against Dublin.

I was thinking if Dublin cannot find fast, intelligent, skillful footballers to go back to the 'Jim Gavin' gameplan. The alternative is simple go for the big target men. EOG types that can win a mark and create havoc, or a fella with a great leap in him like a Vinnie Murphy type. Go for more direct quick ball. With the advanced mark it should yield results if a player decides he has no other option.

It was crying out for more long quick ball into Small or Rock yesterday. To change it up a bit. If the players can't run with speed make the ball do the work - simple. The ball was only launched towards the end of extra time when it was pure panic stations.

Do teams not do the long ball now because it does not look 'sophisticated' or modern or what? It is all about 'transitions', 'possessions' and 'offloads' guff like that. It is as if they are brainwashed at this stage. Surely with the advanced mark teams should be making way more use of it - quick ball. They are over complicating things in my opinion.

it was hugely frustrating to watch us just pass the ball back while in an advanced position do not understand why we have done that all year you have to keep the scoreboard ticking over.

Yes totally. About 95 minutes of football and we only scored 14 points.

a score every roughly 7 minutes. Conditions not great but fûck, that is a poor return and won’t win you much...

players pick up injuries that require surgery, it’s a very physical game... nobody likes it, but it happens, glad to see your obsession with one mistimed challenge and a resulting coming together outshines your concern or interest as to the overall fairness or performance of the referee and indeed Mayo players.

Onus of responsibility is on Small to not connect direct to the head of his opponent.

Small should have been sent off. He won't even get punished retrospectively.

So how did he get a fracture and require surgery. I mean come on there are even people on here agreeing here it happened even if they are offering excuses like not intentional so no red (does not have to be intentional) or he moved down to it

I don't see intentional or unintentional is in the rules to get a red. It was a bad tackle. Ref did not see it and linesman must have thought shoulder

You have got to be the most bitter and blinkered poster on here. You should take a lead from some of your compatriots and accept ye were fairly beaten. Move on.